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Old 03-09-2008, 10:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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daily kos gets sick of hillary - endorses obama...

More insults from Camp Clinton
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Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 03:12:45 PM PDT

And here we go again.

One Clinton aide yesterday derided Mr Obama’s victories in "boutique" caucus states rather than the hardscrabble terrain of the rustbelt, saying: "Obama has won the small caucus states with the latte-sipping crowd. They don’t need a president, they need a feeling."

Really, why don't Clinton and McCain get a room already? They're all using the same arguments.

Even if those arguments are so darn stupid.

The rust belt is (from west to east) the states bordering the great lakes: Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New York. Of those states that have had a real contest, Obama won two (WI and IL), Clinton won two (OH, NY), IN and PA is pending, and MI is still trying to figure out how to have a real contest. Not exactly dominant

And what the heck is up with the "latte-sipping" crap?

Here's the map, Obama states in Blue, Clinton states in Red (because she and her campaign have fallen in love with right-wing McCain frames). (And yes, I'm giving Clinton Texas and Nevada for winning the popular vote in those states, even though she ultimately lost them in delegates):



I see latte- drinking states on Clinton's camp -- California and New York! What an idiotic way to insult a bunch of states. And "boutique" states? Cute. Again with the "only big states matter" b.s.

That's why Obama is the far stronger national candidate. He respects the entire country, not just a select few "pre-approved" and "sanctioned" Clinton states. An assertion proven by the last SUSA poll, which proved not just a clearer path to the White House for Obama, but showed that he runs tighter even in states he loses. That matters at the presidential level, forcing Republicans to spend meager resources defending supposedly safe territory.

And it matters at the state level, making it easier for federal and state candidates to overcome the disadvantages at the top of the ticket. So looking at states with Senate races this fall, in Idaho, for example, it's the difference between overcoming a 13-point Obama deficit and a 36-point Clinton deficit. In Colorado, it's the difference between overcoming a 6-point Clinton loss, and riding a 9-point Obama victory. In Alaska, it's the difference between overcoming a 5-point Obama loss, and a 22-point Clinton loss. In Nebraska, it's the difference between a 3-point Obama loss, and a 27-point Clinton loss. In New Hampshire, it's the difference between an 8-point Clinton loss and 2-point Obama victory. In Oregon it's the difference between a 5-point Clinton loss, and a 8-point Obama victory. In Texas it's the difference between a seven-point Clinton loss, and a 1-point Obama loss. In Wyoming, where we have a hot House at-large race, it's the difference between a 33-point Clinton loss and a 19-point Obama loss, and same thing in Montana, it's the difference between a 20-point Clinton loss and an 8-point Obama loss.

We have more at stake this fall than the presidency, and we have a candidate that is running nationwide and showing proper deference and respect for our great United States of America, and we have another that has given the middle finger to much of the country.

That's why I've become an enthusiastic Obama supporter after being detached for most of this race. Because I'm looking to the candidate who is building a national party, not the one that continues to disrespect most of it.


p.s. For fun, here's the projected results of the rest of the primary contests per the CW, assuming new contests in Florida and Michigan:



Michigan and Indiana are the two tossups of the bunch.
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The MoveOn.org endorsement swung Super Teusday Obama's way. Imagine how much more this'll do for him. Hillary's "momentum" from last Tuesday has already come to a screeching halt.
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It is late and I could be wrong, but I think Daiy Kos had egg on its face because it believed Clinton's version of the Obama/Canada/NAFTA story. Good enough reason to endorse Obama.
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She is pissing everyone off. Does she really want all of the left wing bloggers against her. Every time you look up she is losing people to defend her heinous actions.
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She is pissing everyone off. Does she really want all of the left wing bloggers against her. Every time you look up she is losing people to defend her heinous actions.
Hasn't stopped the Bush/Cheney straight-talk-crooked-behavior express.

Are we suggesting that left wing bloggers will determine the next president?

I submit that left wing blogging will be inversely related to Heartland and Bible Belt voting.
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She is pissing everyone off. Does she really want all of the left wing bloggers against her. Every time you look up she is losing people to defend her heinous actions.
There were not so many blogs in 2004, but even moderate liberals were enraged by the Swift Boat ads. George W. Bush didn't lose any sleep over it. He won.

I am not sure why her husband has cheerfully kissed his legacy goodbye, but they WILL get what they want.

The corporation-controlled MSM has two offensive new mantras:

1) that Obama isn't tough enough to be President, that he must fight back. What the hell is he supposed to do, shriek maniacal lies like she does? Shriek "Shame on you, Hillary Clinton!" Deviously accuse her of doing something that he actually did, like the Obama/Canada/Nafta fiasco last week. (Daily Kos lost credibility points by faling for her plants. Yesterday Daily Kos endorsed Obama.)

2) that Bill and Hillary's despicable wink-wink suggestions that a
Clinton/Obama ticket is a very real possibility is just fascinating.
Fascinating! For want of a better analogy, this would be akin to
Walter Mondale promising his possible supporters in 1984 that it was entirely possible that Ronald Reagan would be his VP candidate.
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There were not so many blogs in 2004, but even moderate liberals were enraged by the Swift Boat ads. George W. Bush didn't lose any sleep over it. He won.

I am not sure why her husband has cheerfully kissed his legacy goodbye, but they WILL get what they want.

The corporation-controlled MSM has two offensive new mantras:

1) that Obama isn't tough enough to be President, that he must fight back. What the hell is he supposed to do, shriek maniacal lies like she does? Shriek "Shame on you, Hillary Clinton!" Deviously accuse her of doing something that he actually did, like the Obama/Canada/Nafta fiasco last week. (Daily Kos lost credibility points by faling for her plants. Yesterday Daily Kos endorsed Obama.)

2) that Bill and Hillary's despicable wink-wink suggestions that a
Clinton/Obama ticket is a very real possibility is just fascinating.
Fascinating! For want of a better analogy, this would be akin to
Walter Mondale promising his possible supporters in 1984 that it was entirely possible that Ronald Reagan would be his VP candidate.
FOX News...and smug, smug Sean Hannity...began an expose last night: The REAL Barack Obama. Lotsa stuff about Obama's pastor/mentor, lotsa stuff about black mission statements...

And they're just gettin' warmed up...first in a series.
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Daily Kos ran an AT&T advertisement ON THE SAME DAY, ON THE SAME PAGE as its impassioned No Immunity for Telecom Companies piece.

How do we square with that?

Doesn't matter, right, so long as Daily Kos-another-individual is Pro-O?
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Daily Kos ran an AT&T advertisement ON THE SAME DAY, ON THE SAME PAGE as its impassioned No Immunity for Telecom Companies piece.

How do we square with that?

Doesn't matter, right, so long as Daily Kos-another-individual is Pro-O?
Must be the same Clinton logic, I would be much more bothered if Daily Kos ran an AT&T add the same day it ran an impassioned PRO Immunity for Telecom Companies piece.
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What the hell is he supposed to do, shriek maniacal lies like she does? Shriek "Shame on you, Hillary Clinton!" Deviously accuse her of doing something that he actually did, like the Obama/Canada/Nafta fiasco last week.
I would think simply correcting the record would be enough.
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