ppatt

I think it's time to start turning attention to McBush since he's the one running for "W"s third term. It might be safe enough for Obama to start devoting 10-35% of his time to that. Even just one speech containing references to Grandpa and entirely omitting HRC would start a series of murmurs that would inevitably lead to the dangling implication that Hillary is done. Sometimes the conclusion you let people reach is more powerful than the one you thrust in their face.

We are just a few more primaries away from not needing to talk about here anymore.

Lest anyone think the HRC-Obama supporter is self-defeating, it has tons more substance than anything we saw from that GOP pack of clowns.

Heavy_monkey2.0

i agree with you there ppat...

"Those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still"

syriana

He never recovers from his associations!

julia

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What would the outrage on this board be if McCain had mentioned, or even hinted that he would nuke Iran? I'm not sure my computer would survive the onslaught.
Why did the MSM virtually ignore Hillary with her outrageous claim about nuking Iran?
This was headline news all over the world, yet barely mentioned here in America. This should have been enough to completely end her campaign, for all practical purposes.
I listen to German news regularly and they basically thought she had completely lost her mind, the campaign had been too tough on her mental stability, and it was the end for her.
If any Republican candidate, past or present, had stated something this crazy, they'd be tatooed as a right-wing nut case.
Yet what we heard about the most was "bittergate". (?!!??!?) Unbelievable.

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HarperLee

I am glad someone else is outraged.

This is from the Boston Globe editorial, Dr. Strangelove,
which I quoted in full yesterday:

This foolish and dangerous threat was muted in domestic media coverage. But it reverberated in headlines around the world.

Responding with understatement to a question in the British House of Lords, the foreign minister responsible for Asia, Lord Mark Malloch-Brown, said of Clinton's implication of a mushroom cloud over Iran: "While it is reasonable to warn Iran of the consequences of it continuing to develop nuclear weapons and what those real consequences bring to its security, it is probably not prudent in today's world to threaten to obliterate any other country and in many cases civilians resident in such a country."

A less restrained reaction came from an editorial in the Saudi-based paper Arab News. Being neighbors of Iran, the Saudis and the other Gulf Arabs have the most to fear from Iran's nuclear program and its drive to become the dominant power in the Gulf.

The Saudi paper called Clinton's nuclear threat "the foreign politics of the madhouse," saying, "it demonstrates the same doltish ignorance that has distinguished Bush's foreign relations."

The Fourth Estate no longer cares about this country.

And I will defend crackers who voted for her in Pennsylvania --
why wouldn't anyone think that Jeremiah Wright is more important
than the Iraqi war or promising to nuke Iran or an Exponential
Surge (as Rachel Maddow termed Hillary's Middle East strategy) when
all the MSM has covered for seven weeks is Jeremiah Wright?

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MarkMiller

Huh....so no one remembers the 1970's and how the Iranians treated us? So it's was wrong to stand up and say that if Iran attacks Israel we would annihilate them? No, it was a good warning that she will not be a "Jimmy Carter". You may not like it....but some countries really do want to Israel and the US. Should we have offered to send FTD?

julia

Tonight I spoke with a friend of mine who is a Hillary supporter, not sure if she still was since another friend no longer is.

I brought up the obliterate Iran comment.

The friend said that Hillary had a follow up question and she clarified that if Iran attacked Israel with nuclear weapons that we would attack nuclear weapons. The friend then criticized the media for running with the sound bite.

I replied that Hilary should never make a statement like she did, the original statement was to the best of my knowledge: "if Israel is attacked I would obliterate Iran."

I also said that I personally would not want us to nuke Iran if they nuked Israel. Friend said that it's already in a treaty that we would retaliate if Israel was ever attacked. That I do not know.

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Yes....I believe that is true Julia.

Edit; I am looking but can find absolutely nothing. So this may well be an urban legend of some kind.