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Old 04-01-2008, 04:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I know no one -45 who still has AOL.
hmm. another generational divide?
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I dropped AOL in the mid 90's and went with Net Zero untill they started charging. It was a good ride while it lasted. Had internet for free for about a year.

Now I have Surewest DSL....love it.
I know a few that can't break the AOL habit. I was on it years ago and I'll admit I didn't venture out beyond it's walls even though people told me of wonderful things on the web that were not mutilated by the AOL browser. It was the way their system screwed with images that was the last straw for me.

I'm not giving any polls credibility this year, or maybe forever more.

First off, internet polls or petitions are worth the paper they're written on. A true scientific study will use methodology to select a random sample to poll. Throwing up a question on-line and yelling "Hey anyone and everyone! Click some buttons! And bring your friends and relatives along to click some buttons too!"

I worked for a social science research firm at a University for over 15 yrs so I'm a little fussy about this topic. But now having been gone for 8 years and seeing the quality of their current standards I wouldn't put any confidence in their poll results either.

This is a longer story than anyone could care about, but to sum up, my wife still works for them so I see the quality of the systems they release. Plus last week they had a company dinner that I got to attend, talking to the few old timers left it seems the situation is worse than even I thought.

Bottom line, Corporate America Meets Not-for-Profit Corp, the professors and social scientists are quickly replaced by more affordable staff that previously wouldn't have qualified as research assistant, the entire techie staff with years of experience in survey research was replaced in one swoop by a gaggle of 19-25 yr olds.
Social science was like a religion to the old crew.
Am I sounding like a grumpy old man yet? Cause I'm really trying.
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
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bottom line - this poll doesn't mean shit.

it's about as accurrate as a lou dobbs "question of the day"!
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:41 AM   #14 (permalink)
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The AOL poll is sort of the laughing stock of polls, it's about as credible as ours Then again it's just an internet poll as mentioned.

But for some real numbers Gallup has Obama up 51% to 43%



Gallup Daily: Obama Keeps Up Lead Over Clinton, 51% to 43%
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:50 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Although the vote is only once for each person there are many reasons this poll has problems with accuracy that's for sure.....but so do all polls, even Gallop.

As I said I really don't trust them that much.
This AOL "poll" is far less accurate than any. And, despite dubious claims to the contrary, other polls have largely been quite accurate. Where they miss is the undecided voters, which is something no one has been able to adjust for EVER. So when real polls show that Hillary's campaign is a failure it's safe to assume she can pack up her shit and go back to New York.
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Although the vote is only once for each person there are many reasons this poll has problems with accuracy that's for sure.....but so do all polls, even Gallop.

As I said I really don't trust them that much.
No you can vote as many times as you want. All you have to do is delete your cookie for the website and when you return to it you can vote again. (I just voted for Ron Paul 3 times)

Internet polls are extremely unreliable, as aloysious pointed out Ron Paul would be the Republican nominee if they were accurate. In fact he leads McCain in 10 states in this poll despite not even being in the race, states in which he soundly got beaten in.
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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No you can vote as many times as you want. All you have to do is delete your cookie for the website and when you return to it you can vote again. (I just voted for Ron Paul 3 times)

Internet polls are extremely unreliable, as aloysious pointed out Ron Paul would be the Republican nominee if they were accurate. In fact he leads McCain in 10 states in this poll despite not even being in the race, states in which he soundly got beaten in.
Yeah, they are very unreliable. At least on this site it's based on your username so no matter what you can only vote once. I also have it set so a user has to be registered for so long and have so many posts before they can vote, preventing people from just registering new usernames just to pad votes.
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Yeah, they are very unreliable. At least on this site it's based on your username so no matter what you can only vote once. I also have it set so a user has to be registered for so long and have so many posts before they can vote, preventing people from just registering new usernames just to pad votes.
Thus destroying our attempt to bus in voters to get Environment Man elected as president.
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:53 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Thus destroying our attempt to bus in voters to get Environment Man elected as president.
Are you kidding, why do you think I set it up like that! I've always wanted to derail a presidency.
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Are you kidding, why do you think I set it up like that! I've always wanted to derail a presidency.
Well it's not like E-man was ever on the tracks to begin with...
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