ppatt

Obama probably leaves the toilet seat up....

the rest...

cheapseats

Given the state of the union...given the travesty of the past 7 years and the ridiculousness of our lives today, slaving and slaving to keep our heads above water while the government and big business nickel and dime us for every nickel and dime...the perfect candidate would already have had this campaign well in hand with minimal muss and fuss, and a November landslide in plain view.

None of the three of them are perfect candidates.

No one is perfect, I realize.

But not everyone becomes embroiled in mayhem, either.

The Democrats have managed to make John McCain look calm and collected. How's THAT for twisted?

EDWARDS/BIDEN
COMMON/SENSE
It's not too late.

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itsmeeeeeee

i'm not sure the 8 years BEFORE bush were exactly confidence builders.

all the scandals and obstructionist politics that culminated with "i did NOT have sex with that woman" wasn't what i'd call pleasant.

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winthrop

Come on, really. Mr. Clinton's private dalliances are comparable to the crimes, certainly moral if not legal ones, of the Bush Cabal?
Ms. Clinton deserves to be examined on her own merits or lack thereof, including, I suppose, why she prefers to stay married and what that means, if anything. All politicians need to be examined thoroughly, rose colored glass not included.

itsmeeeeeee

well, i thought we were talking about politicians instilling the country with confidence.

and quite frankly, i AM examining hillary on her own merits.

she's lied so much just during this campaign, lying even TODAY - looking her supporters in the eye and telling them that obama's telling her to get out of the race when he's so clearly not...

lie, lie, lie, so casually and soooo frequently - soooooo many lies rolling off her lips like poison honey.

like the nafta stuff, the depths of which won't be TRULY revealed to the average american till the canadian investigation is made public - even though we already have enough white house records to undermine her own claims of not supporting it, and without the whole dirty truth about obama nafta memo smear she orchestrated which isn't even factored into THAT issue yet...

the claims of involvement in peace in ireland, which irish lawmakers involved are outright ridiculing...

bosnia, macedonia, chelsea jogging around the WTC on 9/11, denying she knew peter paul (all on tape), omg, there's just been soooooooo many lies!

and this didn't start yesterday. i mean, with the benefit of hindsight, i see it all pretty clearly NOW - she looked america in the eye and lied about lewinsky, too, during all that.

bill may have been crotch hound in chief, but she was an accessory to the crimes. it's pretty obvious WHERE she learned, and WHO taught her to lie so much.

having been married to a compulsive liar myself, and seeing how she's lying in these primaries, it's pretty clear to me that she didn't start lying recently. it goes all the way back! it's a pattern.

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The_Heretic

Common sense would have Biden in the top spot.

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"Enough!!" -so rang Barack Obama's voice off the walls of Mile High Stadium

Vicariously I

I don't think this is true. Every four years people fight for the lesser of two evils and that support may "seem" like they absolutely love that candidate but in reality they just hate the other that much more.

This is the first time that I can remember people actually being inspired by one and in a time like ours that's not such a bad thing.

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"It's hard to face reality when you're busy living in the American Dream."

Vicariously I

cheapseats

On first glance, and second and third, that's what I'da thought, too. Go figure.

But NOW, at 72nd glance, I think not and I'll tell you why.

First, it is my understanding that Biden withdrew from the campaign and that Edwards suspended his campaign and, amidst the plethora of rules that make no sense whatsoever outside of herding the outcome into narrowly defined possibilities...you can choose our guy/gal or you can choose our guy/gal...it is further my understanding that suspension makes Edwards, like Romney, eligible to re-enter the race. It is possible that my understanding is wrong, but that is my understanding.

Then, if that is so, BOWING TO REALITY, I warmed to the idea of a hard-nosed, no-nonsense, barracuda litigator Domestic Guy taking the top spot for a change...seein' as how our domestic front is goin' to hell in a hand basket largely because of crooks and liars...and an experienced, diplomatic, sophisticated Foreign Guy one rung down on the extension ladder of our priorities.

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The_Heretic

No, still would rather see Biden as president over Edwards.

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cheapseats

I understand that. It seemed intuitive.

I would still rather that George Bush hadn't been re-elected. That seemed intuitive, too.

I am saying that, unless I am mistaken, Joe Biden CAN'T re-enter the race as a presidential candidate. He withdrew. He quit. He's out. It's in the rules. Whereas, unless I am mistaken, candidates who suspend their campaigns...go on hiatus, in entertainment industry parlance...may resume their campaigns.

That'd be Romney and Edwards.

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