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Old 04-05-2008, 05:29 AM   #171 (permalink)
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I'd like to give an open apology to everyone who participated in this thread. It's not my fault I can't read after 6 beers. Harrison Ford/Harold Ford...what the fuck? Admit it, I was close, though. They even look alike!

And, btw, I stand by what I said about Harrison Ford, anyway. Two bit fucking fraud, hasn't done a stunt in his life.

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It was interesting to note last night that Bill Maher is upset with the idea people are asking Hillary to drop out. And he's no supporter of her.

His one conservative guest, Amy, a young, black female, made the point that polling is inaccurate when race is in the question as many people won't admit their true feelings.

This means, to me, that it is absolutely important to let the voting continue and it's the only accurate way to see the extent to which Wright hurts Obama.
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This means, to me, that it is absolutely important to let the voting continue and it's the only accurate way to see the extent to which Wright hurts Obama.
Unlike you, many Americans actually watched Barack Obama's
March 18 speech.

From CBS/NYTimes poll on CBS website today, April 5, 2008:

The Democratic presidential race continues to be tight nationally, with Barack Obama maintaining a narrow lead. Among Democratic primary voters who have already participated in a Democratic primary held this year, or still plan to, Obama leads Hillary Clinton 46 percent to 43 percent. Those numbers are unchanged from a month ago.

Expectations that Obama will become the nominee have grown in the last two weeks, with 69 percent of Democratic voters now saying they expect him to defeat Clinton - up from 55 percent in mid-March.

Democratic primary voters view Obama as the more electable candidate. Fifty-six percent think he is better positioned to beat John McCain in November, while only 32 percent think Clinton is.


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All three presidential candidates are seen as sharing the values that Americans try to live by, and none more so than Obama, who leads all three candidates by this measure. Seventy percent say Obama shares Americans' values, 60 percent say Clinton does and 66 percent say the same for McCain.

On the broader issue of national unity, Obama is the only candidate seen by a majority of voters (59 percent) as someone who would unite the country. By comparison, 51 percent say that Hillary Clinton would not be able to do so, while voters are divided on whether McCain would succeed in unifying the country.

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Most voters have heard or read about the controversy surrounding statements made by Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright, and most have also heard or read about Obama's speech on race relations.

While the impact of the Wright issue on views of Obama is negative, the impact of Obama’s speech on race is positive and has perhaps offset some of the negative impact of the Wright issue. Thirty-six percent say that Wright's statements have caused them to have a less favorable view of Obama while 62 percent say they have made no difference.

It is primarily white voters whose views of Obama have become more negative as a result of Wright’s statements, though 58 percent of whites say the statements did not affect their views. Most blacks say they had no effect on their opinion of the candidate.

By two to one, voters say Obama's speech on race in America has made their view of him more favorable rather than less favorable. Both black and white voters responded more favorably than unfavorably to Obama’s speech on race, although most said the speech had no impact on their views of Obama.
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