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Old 04-02-2008, 12:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Sure what tweetie is saying has nothing to do with the thread at hand but he's worked so hard on these questions. At least I assume, since he posts the same things over and over and over again.

Surely there is a way we can make this about him and what he wants to talk about.
He will copy-and-paste this on at least 5 threads. Because he can.

After I leave for awhile I may return and play the if-you-can't-beat-'em-join-'em game.
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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That's why I said we don't need her a while back

However, she is still hinting to the fact that after Obama builds an insurmountable lead that Hillary needs to drop. She just caved on everything else, as she has so many times before. This is exactly why our current congress is worhtless, not only against republicans but even in our own party.
Pelosi is absolutely worthless.
nothing but a figure head, and not a good one at that.
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Pelosi is absolutely worthless.
nothing but a figure head, and not a good one at that.
I agree with you on this point. She is very weak and needs to grow a backbone.
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:44 PM   #14 (permalink)
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We've gone through an horrendous 7 plus years. 2006 broke the republican stanglehold, but failed to give the democrats a sufficient majority to do much of anything; certainly far less than had been hoped for.

This country cannot, in my opinion, survive the way we'd like it to with more republican appointed justices.

Most of the Hillary vs Obama arguments are over little or nothing, IMO, and I'll support whomever ends up with this nomination.

It has annoyed me to no end that ANY superdelegate voiced support for any candidate while the voting was taking place, as it's not their job to influence the voting. It is there job to make a decision if the voters fail to.

It annoys me even more that anyone would ever suggest a candidate who still has the slimest of chances to be the nominee drop out.

If we can get past the emotional hatred of Senator Clinton, we can see the advantages of her staying in at least until after the coming votes.

These coming votes may be an extremely good reflection as to the extent, if any, Wright is hurting Obama, and whether or not that should be factored into the super delegates decisions.

Because she's still in this, they have, I believe, 2 debates scheduled. I believe they will both spend some of these debates unifying the party behind the nominee.

I don't consider those of us who have supported Obama as my enemy, and I'd like to think, although it's difficult sometimes, to think those who supported Obama don't think of me, as a Hillary supporter, as their enemy.

I have always been ready to vigorously support Obama if he gets the nomination

Personally, I believe, those of super delegate status who would like Hillary to drop out are simply showing cowardice. They are hoping this won't come down to them making the decision.

Looks like it will come down to them making a decision. At that time, they can do the math several ways, flip a coin, or whatever works for them. I'll support the nominee.

I really believe there should be a rule that super delegates remain neutral until after the voting has failed to give someone enough delegates.

Meanwhile, let's agree on one thing: the system stinks.

I've emailed the DNC suggesting that next time they divide the country into five groups of states, each group representing as closely as possible the demographics of the country. Then, in order by lot, hold primaries, no caucuses, on 5 separate dates with 2 weeks between.

Problem with caucuses is that they are truly not representative of a state's demographic. People encumbered by time clocks and/or family responsibilities have trouble attending.
Hillary hasn't agreed to the NC debate. No one is afraid of the voters. We are worried about her nefarious tactics and now that the kitchen sink didn't work, how low will this person go to steal the nom. She is behind all of the race baiting and his pastor has nothing on " The Family" which mysteriously isn't being reported by the MSM.

You keep saying she will depart "gracefully" ha what a laugh, it is too late for that. She will leave humiliated and hated by her own party. You and I have had many exchanges about Hillary and Obama from the very beginning. It should be very telling to you how I went from liking Clinton now to downright dislike and disgust. Ask yourself what the price has been.
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I agree with you on this point. She is very weak and needs to grow a backbone.
This just in.

Invertebrates everywhere have expressed outrage at the suggestion that Nanci Pelosi is one of them.

Here is a quote.

Mr. Worm: "wriggle, wriggle, WRIGGLE!"

You heard it here first.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I so agree.

I worked so hard for Democratic wins in 2006 and am so disappointed -- and disgusted.
Which is why I didn't vote for either party in 2006.

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I put no stock into anything she says, let alone get upset by her. The bottom line is that she's basically an inept leader.
Her and Harry "Bends Like A" Reid.
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Why would anybody be suprised? The only reason democrats have a job is because they have the people convinced, that they are not republicans.
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Why would anybody be suprised? The only reason democrats have a job is because they have the people convinced, that they are not republicans.


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Old 04-02-2008, 10:49 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I agree with you on this point. She is very weak and needs to grow a backbone.
The only thing that holds her up is the ten foot pole up her ass. (see Wikiality! The Colbert version of Wikipedia)
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Which is why I didn't vote for either party in 2006.



Her and Harry "Bends Like A" Reid.
Heretic you seem to be commited to the Nth degree for Democratic Hopeful Obama, do you honestly believe that he can clean up even his own party? I know you view him as someone worth supporting as opposed to a 'lesser of evils'.

To date he cannot put-away/KO Hilary, hes winning ...but shouldnt it be over? If he cannot convince his own party leaders, how does he stand a chance of getting anything accomplished if he were to win in the GE?

I dont believe he trandscends democratic politics as usual, my only proof is that he has yet to bring them (dems/ party leaders) into the fold, and i know that argument could be used both ways.

He speaks out against bad ideas, but many of these ideas already have names associated with them, he doesnt name names...i dont see a 'higher standard' being met by Mr Obama, i dont believe he is anything but a politician...so 'hilary aside' ,what EXACTLY convinced you?

i pose this to you because NONE have railed harder against 'business-as-usual' democrats than you.
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