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Old 04-12-2008, 09:59 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Karl The Architect Rove has also been drawing up plans...oooh, for years.




The goodwill refund checks and bail out programs stave off reality a little longer, like til after the election. The global economy is predicted to worsen...that would include ours. Fallout from the Bush Administration's recklessness will absolutely fall on the next President's watch. The buck stops there.

My concern is that fallout from the Bush Administration could render a hapless, one-term president. If it is a Democrat, there'll be hell to pay. If it's John McCain, the Republicans will remind America that he was never a true conservative. Either way, they will sound the call for eight years of REAL Republican leadership.




Some of them will change, because some of the current Elite will kick the bucket. That is why it is so important for us to vigorously prosecute a few white collar criminals...nothing send a message like sending a few Suits to prison.

Let's start with the credit crisis. Indisputably, there are some crimes that want investigation. Let us seize ill-gotten gains upon conviction of crimes predicated on greed.

Half a dozen Hot Shots in prison, and it's a whole new ball game.
Not that I am against some "righteous lynchings" but that sounds a bit Mussolini'ish...........

If there is some truth to "power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely" then the system needs to be attacked not just men & women acting like men & women..........

IMO we are not electing a president.......... We are electing a king.... SOmeone that is above the law & can act w/ almost impunity.... THey can make or break treaties, send us off to war & skirt & circumvent the law

The time for one person to have so much power is way past.... Our system needs to be changed or dumped for a parlimentary system where one man or women can not just make decisions that not only effect millions but billions.........

What the American president does has repercussions around the world & the decisions made by one must be lived w/ by all..............
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well, i'm back. had a REAL close call with sewer gas from flooding here that started thursday night. i think i'm pretty lucky to be alive... i apologize again for "going off" but i was very disoriented and sick all day yesterday. still not up to snuff, so i'll catch ya all later.
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What does that mean???
It's an HBO board thing. You kind of had to be there to watch that asshole create the implosion.
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It means that the administrator of the LiveWorld message board for HBo, Admin17, can go fuck himself. I would suppose that guest would prefer that he/she use a spiked, rusty steel dildo to repeatedly and forcefully violate any and all orificies he/she possesses.
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Not that I am against some "righteous lynchings" but that sounds a bit Mussolini'ish...........
Americans are gonna have to disabuse themselves of the notion that all this Change and Correction is gonna occur without someone feeling it negatively. Resources are finite, something's gotta give.

The alternative, NOT seizing ill-gotten gains, means nothing less than CRIME PAYS.

Are you kidding me? All that lying is exhausting...you know how much harder it is to manage a lie, one begetting another. They go to a country club jail for a year or three, rest, and emerge unfathomably wealthy?

There are a lotta lotta people in this country who are a LOT smarter than our public servants.

Piracy has become fashionable. Pirates get the girls, and they have way cool forts.



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If there is some truth to "power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely" then the system needs to be attacked not just men & women acting like men & women..........


IMO we are not electing a president.......... We are electing a king.... SOmeone that is above the law & can act w/ almost impunity.... THey can make or break treaties, send us off to war & skirt & circumvent the law

The time for one person to have so much power is way past.... Our system needs to be changed or dumped for a parlimentary system where one man or women can not just make decisions that not only effect millions but billions.........

What the American president does has repercussions around the world & the decisions made by one must be lived w/ by all..............
I agree, completely.
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It's an HBO board thing. You kind of had to be there to watch that asshole create the implosion.
cool have fun there......... I only go to one other political board occasionally.......... & a couple basketball forums.........
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Americans are gonna have to disabuse themselves of the notion that all this Change and Correction is gonna occur without someone feeling it negatively. Resources are finite, something's gotta give.

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Well the problem here is one & the same.......... If you give them this power it goes w/ the house not the man or women in that house....

It all sounds nice, warm & fuzzy now but what about when the "bad man or women" is elected into that house & they have that power??? It don't look so pretty & warm then..........

I want to see change come about......... I don't want to be joining mr cheney on the "dark side" in order to achieve it.......

Doing wrong that good may come about always seems to be "right" in the short term but down the road it seems to come round & bite yea in the ass......
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Well the problem here is one & the same.......... If you give them this power it goes w/ the house not the man or women in that house....

It all sounds nice, warm & fuzzy now but what about when the "bad man or women" is elected into that house & they have that power??? It don't look so pretty & warm then..........

I want to see change come about......... I don't want to be joining mr cheney on the "dark side" in order to achieve it.......

Doing wrong that good may come about always seems to be "right" in the short term but down the road it seems to come round & bite yea in the ass......
You are absolutely right, of course.

But desperate times call for desperate measures.

What about this? Don't many bills and statutes have an expiration date?

What about a temporary crackdown? It's not f-a-a-i-r, we wail. Tough. Every challenge and crisis that's ever come down the pike of human history has fallen disproportionately on some. These some are criminals. Oh, well.

How long was Three Strikes You're Gonna Know How The Big Boys Can Fuck You Over In More Ways Than One operational? Maybe that's a guide. Maybe it's however long will get us, fail-safe, to a new administration, in case of hanky panky...ten years oughtta do it.
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You are absolutely right, of course.

But desperate times call for desperate measures.

What about this? Don't many bills and statutes have an expiration date?

What about a temporary crackdown? It's not f-a-a-i-r, we wail. Tough. Every challenge and crisis that's ever come down the pike of human history has fallen disproportionately on some. These some are criminals. Oh, well.

How long was Three Strikes You're Gonna Know How The Big Boys Can Fuck You Over In More Ways Than One operational? Maybe that's a guide. Maybe it's however long will get us, fail-safe, to a new administration, in case of hanky panky...ten years oughtta do it.
I am not against going after the big boys.. & putting them into the general prison population.. I just want to do it legally........ W/in the law............ There are ways to do this w/out exceeding the limits of our laws.. @ least IMO..

They have managed to put many big time crooks in jail w/out resorting to draconian methods.. What is missing here & now is the willingness to pursue these robber barons....... See this whitehouse:

Justice Department Increasingly Avoiding Corporate Prosecutions

The Justice Department has put off prosecuting more than fifty companies suspected of wrongdoing over the last three years. The decline in prosecutions is seen as a deliberate and dramatic shift in policy. While the news reported in a front-page article in the New York Times surprised many, the Justice Department’s use of so called “deferred prosecution agreements” is nothing new. Back in 2005, a report released by the Corporate Crime Reporter profiled dozens of these cases and warned against their use. We speak with Russell Mokhiber, editor of the Corporate Crime Reporter. [includes rush transcript]
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I want to see change come about......... I don't want to be joining mr cheney on the "dark side" in order to achieve it.......
The Cheney's are needed to keep you free and safe. Someone has to do the dirty work. Clearly you do not have the stomach for it. So let the man do his job (for you).
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