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Old 04-12-2008, 11:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well that clearly would not be as profitable as it is here now would it? Unless you have a deal. And is the Thorazine free?
The only profit will be from the check that you give to the facility, then the makers of Thorazine will get their cut.
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So few people understand the eman.. sigh

Did you hire him for comic relief?
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The only profit will be from the check that you give to the facility, then the makers of Thorazine will get their cut.
Eman does not pay for treatment any more than Tiger Woods pays to play golf. Eman is paid for treatement. The drugs can be in the rider.
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Did you hire him for comic relief?
Eric is innocent (and liberal). He does not believe in profit (here). So Eman is all alone.
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CNN, today:

And her voting record on gun control, also from On the Issues:

Against illegal guns, crack down on illegal gun dealers. (Jan 2008)
Backed off a national licensing registration plan on guns. (Jan 2008)
Get assault weapons & guns off the street. (Jul 2007)
Background check system could prevent Virginia Tech massacre. (Apr 2007)
FactCheck: VA Tech shooter not declared a danger to others. (Apr 2007)
Congress' failure at Littleton response inspired Senate run. (Nov 2003)
Keep guns away from people who shouldn’t have them. (Sep 2000)
Limit access to weapons; look for early warning signs. (Sep 2000)
License and register all handgun sales. (Jun 2000)
Tough gun control keeps guns out of wrong hands. (Jul 1999)
Gun control protects our children. (Jul 1999)
Don’t water down sensible gun control legislation. (Jul 1999)
Lock up guns; store ammo separately. (Jun 1999)
Ban kids’ unsupervised access to guns. (Jun 1999)
Get weapons off the streets; zero tolerance for weapons. (Sep 1996)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology. (Aug 2000

Hillary Clinton on the Issues
Sorry to snip but this is what pisses me off. Whatever laws they pass to try to prevent someone from getting guns is quite frankly a waste of time. If someone wants one bad enough, they will get one. Example: I can go right now down in the south side of Syracuse, flash 100 bux, say I want a handgun, and I will get one. That simple. IMO, law enforcement doesn't bother much with looking for illegal guns until someone is killed by one. If they did, you can guarantee that crime involving illegal guns would virtually be non existant.

Now, what irks me even more was the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994. Politicans lied their asses off (Clinton Admin) about their uses in crimes. It was very little. They knew it.

From: NRA-ILA :: Fact Sheets

A study for Congress found that semi-autos affected by the Clinton "assault weapon" ban "were never used in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders," and that the ban's 10-round limit on new ammunition magazines isn't a factor in multiple-victim or multiple-wound crimes.2 A follow-up study found "gunshot injury incidents involving pistols (which use magazines) were less likely to produce a death than were those involving revolvers" and "the average number of wounds for pistol victims was actually lower than that for revolver victims."3 Police reports and felon surveys have always shown that "assault weapons" are used in only 1%-2% of violent crimes.4 Crime victim surveys indicate the figure is only 0.25%.5 Murders with knives, clubs and hands outnumber those with AWs by more than 20-to-1.6
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Espically when it came down to "describing" what an assault weapon is. Noone can agree on it, because many of what was listed in the law also applied to many other firearms.

From: Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Provisions of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban:
The Federal Assault Weapons Ban was only a small part (title XI, subtitle A) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act.

The act created a definition of "assault weapons" and subjected firearms that met that definition to regulation. Nineteen models of firearms were defined by name as being "assault weapons". Various semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns were classified as "assault weapons" due to having various combinations of features

The term "assault weapon" in the context of civilian rifles has been attributed to gun-control activist Josh Sugarmann. The term assault weapon refers to semi-automatic firearms (that is, firearms that, when fired, automatically extract the spent casing and load the next round into the chamber, ready to fire again) that were developed from earlier fully-automatic weapons. By former U.S. law the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, H&K G36E, TEC-9, all AK-47s, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of features from the following list of features:

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Large capacity ammunition magazines
Folding or telescoping stock
Conspicuous pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device which enables the launching or firing of rifle grenades)
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or silencer
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
Detachable magazine
The earlier term assault rifle, refers to rifles that are select-fire (that is, rifles that are capable of either semi-automatic or fully-automatic fire), firing intermediate-power rounds (such as the 5.56 x 45 mm NATO, or 7.62 x 39 mm), which along with fully automatic pistols, provided the pre-cursor for the term "assault weapon."

(Fully automatic, such as describing a machine gun, means that a firearm can fire multiple rounds with a single pull of the trigger and will continue to fire as long as the trigger is depressed and ammunition remains in the magazine. In contrast, the term assault weapon as used in civilian and U.S. legal usage refers to a semi-automatic weapon that fires one shot for each trigger pull, the same as any other semi-automatic hunting rifle, or semi-automatic household handgun, all of which automatically load another round of ammunition that can be fired with each subsequent trigger pull until the attached magazine is empty. Note: a double-action revolver also fires one shot for each trigger pull but is not considered "semi-automatic" since the force of pulling the trigger brings the next round ready rather than the recoil of the last cartridge.) (My comment)Unfortunately this was already law under the The National Firearm Act of 1934, and noone even bothered to look it up. This is strictly enforced and always has been.
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Another thing is, I would not hold manufacturers liable for what someone does with a firearm. They do not control that person's thinking. I have always said: Guns don't kill people, people kill people. A gun is just a tool, someone has to be on the other end to operate it.
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Me. Me. Eman is a military law enforcement superhero.
Impersonating law enforcement is a serious crime in all states.
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So few people understand the eman.. sigh
Some people have seen a lot more sides of Eman than you have Eric. (When he didn't speak third party all the time.)
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Nice to know that! I would assume that includes MP's as well?
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Some people have seen a lot more sides of Eman than you have Eric. (When he didn't speak third party all the time.)
I have no doubt and he has over 11,000 posts here, you don't think we've seen a taste?

For me it's about how seriously you take a person. While others, I am sure, get quite annoyed I am mostly entertained. Even when I get into a heated debate with him I rarely take anything personal. It's hard to explain, you know, it's just eman.

In fact I always take pride when he calls me a Liberal! Some day, when I am poor (which may not be too far off because I am losing my job) I will put up a donation thing on this site. I just may get the honor of being called a capitalist then
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How else can he do his thing at the bachelorette parties?
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