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Old 04-15-2008, 12:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If the Constitution is upheld, what the fuck is the problem? How much can you expand government when the Constitution limits government expansion?
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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and who won those elections ??
Not Kerry or Gore.

I'm not advocating this line of attack - just pointing it out, so when Obama loses to Mccain,
you will know the Dem's nominated another culturally dense nominee.

I'll bet my bible and gun on that.
IF he were to lose to McCain one thing would be certain, your wonderful candidate handed them the torch. There is no level she won't stoop to in order to fuck the democratic party from every angle.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
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give it time.
It may not show up in the Primary, but this is another albatross Obama will carry into the general

Thanks to Hillary.

She wants to make sure and punish all those people who dont support her in the primaries, by making Obama out to be some kind of boogeyman.

I myself dont think it will work....after she's exhausted all her ammo and stomped her feet until they bleed, she'll hang her head and shuffle on back to Arkansas and Obama will be the next president.
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The elitist tag isn't really a good fit for Obama, a black man from a single parent home, yeah that just smacks of elitism.
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He didn't lie about the snipers, she did. Did Obama say a single word about it? No. That's the job of the opposing party.
Eric, so Barack has never lied? Really?
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Thanks to Hillary.

She wants to make sure and punish all those people who dont support her in the primaries, by making Obama out to be some kind of boogeyman.

I myself dont think it will work....after she's exhausted all her ammo and stomped her feet until they bleed, she'll hang her head and shuffle on back to Arkansas and Obama will be the next president.
Are you serious, did she invent Rev. Wright as his mentor? Did she utter the words Barack's taking a hit for now? Your having a great ride in the media, but there will be hell to pay in November if Barack is nominated.
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Are you serious, did she invent Rev. Wright as his mentor? Did she utter the words Barack's taking a hit for now? Your having a great ride in the media, but there will be hell to pay in November if Barack is nominated.
No, she didn't create any of that, it's all Obama's issues. That isn't the point that those who are blind seem to be missing here. The point is that Hillary has taken every single one of these issues and used them against someone else in her own party. Once the blinders are taken off, they will see that a candidate with virtually no chance of winning this election has knee capped all democrats, not just Obama. It's a case of "if I can't have it, nobody can".
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No, she didn't create any of that, it's all Obama's issues. That isn't the point that those who are blind seem to be missing here. The point is that Hillary has taken every single one of these issues and used them against someone else in her own party. Once the blinders are taken off, they will see that a candidate with virtually no chance of winning this election has knee capped all democrats, not just Obama. It's a case of "if I can't have it, nobody can".
I think the Republicans would have brought Jeremiah Wright up in the fall -- although I guess if Hillary claws her way to Denver, the upside is that the Republicans won't have time to dig up much.
But this feigned outrage over the "bitter" remarks was choreographed by Hillary and maybe Mark Penn and maybe Bill. It is quite obvious that when McCain tries to be irate about what Obama said, he gets
confused and blathers about patriotism, i.e., these good people aren't bitter; they love their country. As if the two are mutually exclusive.
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Are you serious, did she invent Rev. Wright as his mentor? Did she utter the words Barack's taking a hit for now? Your having a great ride in the media, but there will be hell to pay in November if Barack is nominated.
No, he didnt invent rev wright. But he's not responsible for every controversial statement made by someone he's known for 20 years.

As far as his recent statement, what about it? Hillary's campaign simply latched onto it and spun it into something it's not. But it doesnt seem to be working.

As far as November is concerned, what do you think the right wing is gonna do to HER? She's got a target a mile wide painted on her chest. They'll chew her bullshit up and spit it out. The sniper comment, the thing about brining peace to Ireland and most recently, doing shots and chasing it with beer like some kind of loop-eyed college kid.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:42 PM   #20 (permalink)
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As someone from the actual far left, I can say with full confidence that Barack Obama is no leftist. A moderate democrat at best.

The way you chastize him you would think he was calling for open class warfare or something.. But I guess from the point of view of a right wing Hillary Supporter, Obama is Vladimir Lenin reincarnate.
was not aware you considered yourself on the far left............

I agree that he is hardly on the far left.. It is hillary (& many of her supporters) that are actually leaning hard to the right..........
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