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Old 04-16-2008, 08:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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let's look at today's polls!

North Carolina Democratic Primary InsiderAdvantage Obama 51, Clinton 36 Obama +15

Pennsylvania Democratic Primary PPP (D) Clinton 42, Obama 45 Obama +3 (clinton headquarters reportedly in state of stunned disbelief)

Democratic Presidential Nomination Rasmussen Tracking Obama 48, Clinton 41 Obama +7

Kentucky Democratic Primary SurveyUSA Clinton 62, Obama 26 Clinton +36 (well, what did you expect, really?)


Pennsylvania Democratic Primary Strategic Vision (R) Clinton 49, Obama 40 Clinton +9 (not much change here! no real damage apparent)


Indiana Democratic Primary LA Times/Bloomberg Clinton 35, Obama 40 Obama +5 (voters ARE bitter in indiana!)

North Carolina Democratic Primary LA Times/Bloomberg Obama 47, Clinton 34 Obama +13 (obama continues to kick ass!)

Pennsylvania Democratic Primary LA Times/Bloomberg Clinton 46, Obama 41 Clinton +5 (what? not much of a clinton "bittergate" bounce here!)

Democratic Presidential Nomination ABC News/Wash Post Obama 51, Clinton 41 Obama +10 (ass kicking continues...)


General Election: McCain vs. Obama ABC News/Wash Post McCain 44, Obama 49, Und 2 Obama +5 (obama beating mccain!)

General Election: McCain vs. Clinton ABC News/Wash Post McCain 48, Clinton 45, Und 1 McCain +3 (clinton losing to mc cain!)

Democratic Presidential Nomination Reuters/Zogby Obama 51, Clinton 38 Obama +13 (his largest lead nationally to date!)

General Election: McCain vs. Clinton Reuters/Zogby McCain 46, Clinton 41 McCain +5 (hillary losing to mc cain!)

General Election: McCain vs. Obama Reuters/Zogby McCain 45, Obama 45 Tie (obama does much better than hillary against mccain!)

Pennsylvania Democratic Primary Franklin & Marshall Clinton 49, Obama 42 Clinton +7 (again - no real clinton bump from "bittergate")

i think this is what they officially call "blowback"!
bittergate rejected!
clinton's shoot self in foot.
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They are stunned because people aren't as dumb as they want them to be. Play all your dirty tricks, the public has seen through your lies Hillary.
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Note to self: stay the hell away from Kentucky.
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Note to self: stay the hell away from Kentucky.
My thoughts exactly.
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I didn't expect huge numbers of change. a fe % points.
The good thing is she is now much more likely to win by at least 8.
that is a huge vicory, if she pulls it off.

What is really the effect is if Obama wins the nomination, it makes him much more difficult to carry these large swing states in the general.

I'm thinking if he wins the nomination, he will lose the general.
THAT would be terrible for ALL us Dems.
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Note to self: stay the hell away from Kentucky.
and Ohio, Penn. Florida, Michigan....
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I didn't expect huge numbers of change. a fe % points.
The good thing is she is now much more likely to win by at least 8.
that is a huge vicory, if she pulls it off.

What is really the effect is if Obama wins the nomination, it makes him much more difficult to carry these large swing states in the general.

I'm thinking if he wins the nomination, he will lose the general.
THAT would be terrible for ALL us Dems.
Everyone knows 8% is not a huge win. She was up by 20 points 3 weeks ago. Sorry, but that would be a loss. With Hillary playing against the dems and trying her best to make him unelectable he will still win the Presidency.
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Everyone knows 8% is not a huge win. She was up by 20 points 3 weeks ago. Sorry, but that would be a loss. With Hillary playing against the dems and trying her best to make him unelectable he will still win the Presidency.
When she needs to win 64% of the vote in all ten remaining primaries, an 8 or 10 point win is too little, too late. However, someone predicted this week that if she wins by one point the confetti will
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Everyone knows 8% is not a huge win. She was up by 20 points 3 weeks ago. Sorry, but that would be a loss. With Hillary playing against the dems and trying her best to make him unelectable he will still win the Presidency.
Don't you love people trying to qualify that now?

He has cut her lead in more than half, and now 8 points is a landslide?
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Don't you love people trying to qualify that now?

He has cut her lead in more than half, and now 8 points is a landslide?
8 points is a significant victory.
10 is a double digit knckout.

I say "8" because if she doesn't win by at least 8, then i will consider her to be unable to catch up in the popular vote.
she should then withdrawl.
( of course Fl. -but not Mi., get's factored into the vote.)
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