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Old 05-12-2008, 11:16 AM   #21 (permalink)
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There were death penalty abolitionists, some of whom worried that Obama's bill, by preventing the execution of innocents, would deprive them of their best argument.


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Obama had his work cut out for him.

He responded with an all-out campaign of cajolery. It had not been easy for a Harvard man to become a regular guy to his colleagues. Obama had managed to do so by playing basketball and poker with them and, most of all, by listening to their concerns. Even Republicans came to respect him. One Republican state senator, Kirk Dillard, has said that "Barack had a way both intellectually and in demeanor that defused skeptics."

The police proved to be Obama's toughest opponent. Legislators tend to quail when cops say things like, "This means we won't be able to protect your children." The police tried to limit the videotaping to confessions, but Obama, knowing that the beatings were most likely to occur during questioning, fought -- successfully -- to keep interrogations included in the required videotaping.

By showing officers that he shared many of their concerns, even going so far as to help pass other legislation they wanted, he was able to quiet the fears of many.

Obama proved persuasive enough that the bill passed both houses of the legislature, the Senate by an incredible 35 to 0. Then he talked Blagojevich into signing the bill, making Illinois the first state to require such videotaping.
Obama didn't stop there. He played a major role in passing many other bills, including the state's first earned-income tax credit to help the working poor and the first ethics and campaign finance law in 25 years (a law a Post story said made Illinois "one of the best in the nation on campaign finance disclosure"). Obama's commitment to ethics continued in the U.S. Senate, where he co-authored the new lobbying reform law that, among its hard-to-sell provisions, requires lawmakers to disclose the names of lobbyists who "bundle" contributions for them.

Taken together, these accomplishments demonstrate that Obama has what Dillard, the Republican state senator, calls a "unique" ability "to deal with extremely complex issues, to reach across the aisle and to deal with diverse people."

In other words, Obama's campaign claim that he can persuade us to rise above what divides us is not just rhetoric.

I do not think that a candidate's legislative record is the only measure of presidential potential, simply that Obama's is revealing enough to merit far more attention than it has received. Indeed, the media have been equally delinquent in reporting the legislative achievements of Hillary Clinton and John Edwards, both of whom spent years in the U.S. Senate. The media should compare their legislative records to Obama's, devoting special attention to their heart-and-soul bills and how effective each was in actually making law.


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And Hillary still has no acheivements whatsoever outside of siding with the atni-American right wing on the war, predatory lending and foreign policy.
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:26 AM   #22 (permalink)
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And Hillary still has no acheivements whatsoever outside of siding with the atni-American right wing on the war, predatory lending and foreign policy.


And she's white.
That's considered an Achievement in West Virgina and Kentucky.
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:35 AM   #23 (permalink)
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And she's white.
That's considered an Achievement in West Virgina and Kentucky.
Yeah, I'm sure it is. Do Nothing Dean needs to kick her out of the party. She's deinitely worse than Lieberman ever was.
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hillary loses another one:

Prince George's County Executive Jack B. Johnson, a Democratic convention delegate pledged to support Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, said yesterday that he thinks Sen. Barack Obama has "in a real sense" won the Democratic nomination and that he now plans to support Obama at the August convention.

Johnson, who endorsed Clinton nine days before Maryland's February primary, said he will urge Gov. Martin O'Malley and Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski, who co-chair Clinton's Maryland campaign, to bring all of her delegates to Obama's camp for the sake of party unity.

"I cannot in good conscience go to the convention and not support Barack," Johnson said in an interview. "She ran a great campaign, but she fell short of the line."
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Maybe I should switch from Clinton to Obama and watch what I say about G.E.

G.E. is powerful, and I sure can use a little help with my career in the media realm. (Click)

IMO, solution to manage CO2 effluent from power plants will likely emerge. Therefore, electric vehicles are part of the global warming solution.

Is it too late to start kissing some ass?
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Ah the mystery of the super delegate.......they made them for a reason, whether anyone wants to believe it or not.
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