An honest question to Clinton supporters - Page 2

CosmicRocker · 05-01-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Comicsartist

I'm not talking 'build more refineries' type of ways, man. Those ideas still suck up the oil. Not talking about ethanol, either. We need something to get us off the oil. Cutting an 18.4 cent tax is not going to do it. If anything, as the CNN article says, it could raise the cost at the pump. Oil tycoons hate having their money taken from them, you know.

$30 is a gift from a relative. Gov should go bigger. Ask for a 50+ inch flat screen.

agree on ALL that - i think all Americans do.
We're taking about what can be done for the summer.

CosmicRocker · 05-01-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ericgtr

I guess you have been out of touch but she's made several comments, relentlessly. If you aren't going to watch TV I suggest you at least pick up a paper or hit some of the MSM sites.

She is beyond "moderate" over the last couple of months. Supporting her tactics as many have is a sacrifice of democratic principals which is exactly why Joe Andrew changed sides. I agree with Chuck Todd that after the vote next week, even if it's a split, we are going to see many more of them coming forward for Obama as well to finally put an end to this thing.

There are no campaign ads down here now. ur in Oregon, that's why you get them, and i don't.
I really have no interest in ads, the are slices of info at best.

Everyone hates negative ads, but they have been shown to be potent, which is why Obama would/will do them if he needs to.
She needs to now, cause she is behind.

CosmicRocker · 05-01-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HarperLee

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But Hillary supporters are more interested in a $30 over 4 months
gas savings than her promise to obliterate Iran. The citizenry is no
longer worthy of a democracy.

You forgot the part about obliterating Iran is only AFTER a nuclear first strike from them.
You forgot the idea that putting the Gulf States under our nuclear umbrella helps stop proliferation in the region.
You forgot the part where Amenadinejhad (sp) has promised to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

No-one says this is good energy policy.
It's only a very short semi-stop gap measure.

Do you support a windfalls profit tax on Big Oil, as Hillary has proposed??

Comicsartist · 05-01-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

agree on ALL that - i think all Americans do.
We're taking about what can be done for the summer.

Man, $30 won't even fill the tank! I can barely buy a decent bag for $30. How about imposing one day a week as Dollar Gas Day? The oil companies would still make their money through volume sold alone. THAT'S something I could get behind...

CosmicRocker · 05-01-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Comicsartist

Man, $30 won't even fill the tank! I can barely buy a decent bag for $30. How about imposing one day a week as Dollar Gas Day? The oil companies would still make their money through volume sold alone. THAT'S something I could get behind...

well send me a $30 semi decent bag then for my B-Day

* notice how i keep the answers twisted to shilling for presents*

Comicsartist · 05-01-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

well send me a $30 semi decent bag then for my B-Day

* notice how i keep the answers twisted to shilling for presents*

You sure you're not a politician?

CosmicRocker · 05-01-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Comicsartist

You sure you're not a politician?

I pander for presents.

jdanton · 05-02-2008, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ericgtr

Just wondering how much her supporters agree with the latest right wing policies that she's been throwing out. Republicans are now coming out for her openly and favor her attacks on Obama and Wright, favor her agreement with McCain on the gas tax, favor her 527 style ads. Believe it or not, these are not things that most real Democrats believe in.

My question is are you considering switching sides or has being a liberal taken a back seat to supporting Clinton?

The question is, no offense, kind of stupid. I voted for Hillary in our New Jersey primary. I'll vote for whomever the nominee is.

I don't have any sides to switch. Do I?

I still would prefer her as president, as Obama and his supporters, have yet to explain how he plans to change the way Washington does business. He's promised things that we both know he can't do, much as we agree with the goals he's expressed.

I have, no problem, no hesitation, about supporting Obama when he's the nominee.

I caution you, however, that Rev. Wright is NOT behind us. He will be Obama's "swift boat".

The good news is that the opponent is McCain. His "straight talk" express contradicts itself many times, and the public will be reminded many times of this.

I'm going to make a prediction. After this nomination process is over, and Obama is the nominee, Hillary will make a speech designed to take Wright out of the equation.

anhailla · 05-02-2008, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

send me $30 if you don't think its important.
It isn't much, but any relief will help.
It's all the Fed's can really do by Executive action.
Other policy decisions have to go thru Congress

The problem CR... is it's not relief. The Economists are saying that in fact, it will end up raising prices and demand, not to mention the loss of revenue we can't afford.
4-5 dollars per gallon is here to stay...that's the reality.

This is the kind of pandering that keeps digging bigger holes for this country.

jdanton · 05-02-2008, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

send me $30 if you don't think its important.
It isn't much, but any relief will help.
It's all the Fed's can really do by Executive action.
Other policy decisions have to go thru Congress

Congress can't do a thing about the price of gas. The could make laws that mean higher mpg cars, but I think the consumers are already showing a preference for that.

Congress could close drive thru windows, etc. but I don't think they can tell the companies what to charge for their product.

Take away a tax loophole, gas goes up, no?

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