Hrc: Her Iraq and Iran policy unknown

julia · 05-02-2008, 01:48 AM

Ok hrc minions:

Please defend her positions and stay away from hypotheticals since the lady herself has denounced them.

Title is supposed to be Iraq and Iran if someone could be so kind to change it, thanks.

MarkMiller · 05-02-2008, 02:10 AM

First of all I won't participate when I am called names even by you Julia. You know better than that. And It sound s like more than a little bit of bait.

Why don't you tell us about Barrack Obama's plans for the two countries. He has layed out a complete plan hasn't he. No? Well I am sure his handlers will slip him a piece of paper just before the next great speech.

(Ok, I was a little pissed today so I apologise for being snippy)

CosmicRocker · 05-02-2008, 03:28 AM

do you mean security arrangements?
diplomatic status?
Iranian hegemony over the region?
Iraq' s future, vis a vis the war?
trade policy?

can you narrow down your question?

julia · 05-02-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Zaius

First of all I won't participate when I am called names even by you Julia. You know better than that. And It sound s like more than a little bit of bait.

Why don't you tell us about Barrack Obama's plans for the two countries. He has layed out a complete plan hasn't he. No? Well I am sure his handlers will slip him a piece of paper just before the next great speech.

(Ok, I was a little pissed today so I apologise for being snippy)

You and others have called the Obama supporters "obamaniacs", etc. So yes, I find hrc supporters somewhat outrageous since 50% would not support a possible candidate Obama in the GE. That should be lain firmly at Hrc's doorstep and should make many wonder what is her degree of respect for party unity?! That certainly sounds like some sort of bitterness.

Here is my response from another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by julia

Ok. Let's take the biggest failure of this admin, the Iraq war which Hrc voted for in the senate.

Obama has said that he would aim for 2 divisions out of Iraq per month. Hrc has not said anything specific but does state in her website she wants to leave advisors and a rapid action force in Iraq.
So when she says "Bring the troops home" there's a "but...., but ... and a but......"

Oh yes, she also said that she would obliterate Iran if they attack Israel with nuclear weapons. The most recent NIE said that Iran is not constructing nuclear weapons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Zaius

Today, 02:05 AM #17 (permalink)
Dr. Zaius

Many Americans would agree with it. Iran is a big question mark. It is not Iraq.

It would have made more sense to attack Iran then it did to attack Iraq.

Obama wants to talk with Iran. Fine. I don't disagree with that, except what are they gonna talk about? Do we want our next President to simply pull all the troops out of Iraq immediately? If we do, don't look to Obama. He has already stated he would not do that. And he can't do it. It would do one thing for sure that everyone agrees on. It would endanger all the troops there right now. Sure this isn't his fault, it's the fault of the idiot in the White House right now, but don't be fooled onto thinking a drastic change is possible at this point immediately after any President takes office.

Please note your response on the other thread is timed at 2:05 am so you must have seen my reponse before your further questions here posted at 2:10am.

julia · 05-02-2008, 03:43 PM

If Hrc really wants to be the next Commander in Chief voters have a right to know her position on Iran and Iraq.

Not many Americans want to send their kids/nieces/nephews/etc to a third war theatre in Iran.

julia · 05-02-2008, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

do you mean security arrangements?
diplomatic status?
Iranian hegemony over the region?
Iraq' s future, vis a vis the war?
trade policy?

can you narrow down your question?

Ok, what is her position on leaving Iraq?

What is her position on Iran regarding the current situation there?
Not her playful Doomsday senario.

CosmicRocker · 05-03-2008, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by julia

Ok, what is her position on leaving Iraq?

What is her position on Iran regarding the current situation there?
Not her playful Doomsday senario.

pretty much the same as Obama.
But she wants to covenes the Joint Chiefs first before any timetable,
Pledges to start withdrawls

On Iran? haven't heard too much of it.
Containment of the Shite Cresent thru Iran's Proxies. Pretty standard stuff.

julia · 05-03-2008, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by julia

Ok, what is her position on leaving Iraq?

What is her position on Iran regarding the current situation there?
Not her playful Doomsday senario.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

pretty much the same as Obama.
But she wants to covenes the Joint Chiefs first before any timetable,
Pledges to start withdrawls

On Iran? haven't heard too much of it.
Containment of the Shite Cresent thru Iran's Proxies. Pretty standard stuff.

It's simply not true.

That is another Hrc talking point: they are so much the same.

If Americans support the troops shouldn't they be better informed on this issue since soldiers are dying in Iraq

Let me remind you that AQ attacked us on 9/11 b/c we had bases in Saudi Arabia.

Obama says 2 divisions out a month.

Hrc wants to leave support staff, advisors and a rapid action force in Iraq.
That means bases, ppl.

Please explain why we should stay in Iraq? All the shoddy excuses this admin has used have been exhausted.

CosmicRocker · 05-03-2008, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by julia

It's simply not true.

That is another Hrc talking point: they are so much the same.

If Americans support the troops shouldn't they be better informed on this issue since soldiers are dying in Iraq

Let me remind you that AQ attacked us on 9/11 b/c we had bases in Saudi Arabia.

Obama says 2 divisions out a month.

Hrc wants to leave support staff, advisors and a rapid action force in Iraq.
That means bases, ppl.

Please explain why we should stay in Iraq? All the shoddy excuses this admin has used have been exhausted.

rapid reaction force may or may not be in Iraq.
Possibly a strike force in Kuwaait.

Support staff, and avisors in the Green Zone, mostly to support the Embassy ( an obscene mostrosity)

julia · 05-03-2008, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

rapid reaction force may or may not be in Iraq.
Possibly a strike force in Kuwaait.

Support staff, and avisors in the Green Zone, mostly to support the Embassy ( an obscene mostrosity)

That's not what she has said.
She has said that she will leave advisors, support staff and a rapid action force in Iraq. She has not specified Green Zone.
This is all listed on her website under the Iraq section.

Why would be want Americans holed up in a fortified area of Baghdad? This admin can't even get state department staff to work there.

Advisors, support staff and rapid action forces are troops, too.

So are we getting into parsing of what is is, again?

How is this policy of Hrc supporting the troops?

05-02-2008, 01:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
julia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,240 Blog Entries: 7 Thanks: 203 Thanked 204 Times in 122 Posts	Hrc: Her Iraq and Iran policy unknown Ok hrc minions: Please defend her positions and stay away from hypotheticals since the lady herself has denounced them. Title is supposed to be Iraq and Iran* if someone could be so kind to change it, thanks.* __________________ The candidate does not speak for the campaign. Last edited by julia; 05-02-2008 at 01:50 AM.
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05-02-2008, 02:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
MarkMiller Dr. Zaius, Mark M. Archery 2000 Champion! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,218 Thanks: 69 Thanked 38 Times in 32 Posts	First of all I won't participate when I am called names even by you Julia. You know better than that. And It sound s like more than a little bit of bait. Why don't you tell us about Barrack Obama's plans for the two countries. He has layed out a complete plan hasn't he. No? Well I am sure his handlers will slip him a piece of paper just before the next great speech. (Ok, I was a little pissed today so I apologise for being snippy)
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05-02-2008, 03:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
CosmicRocker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: lost in a lost world Posts: 7,313 My Mood: Thanks: 105 Thanked 78 Times in 61 Posts	as to what? do you mean security arrangements? diplomatic status? Iranian hegemony over the region? Iraq' s future, vis a vis the war? trade policy? can you narrow down your question? __________________ time to dump all that self doubt, hate, distrust, envy, paranoia, and overdue library books. tune in today. ponder tomorrow. Forget yesterday. the river doesn't run in reverse
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05-02-2008, 03:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
julia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,240 Blog Entries: 7 Thanks: 203 Thanked 204 Times in 122 Posts	If Hrc really wants to be the next Commander in Chief voters have a right to know her position on Iran and Iraq. Not many Americans want to send their kids/nieces/nephews/etc to a third war theatre in Iran. __________________ The candidate does not speak for the campaign.
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