MarkMiller

I asked for clarification and you just started a rant! You didn't want a discussion or a debate, you wanted to prove a point.....very much the same point I was trying to make.

People want so badly to feel that they have overcome some great obstacle when they haven't....their parents did. Yes it is a part of who you are yes there was great adversity, but what you sounded very much like was "My family fought and suffered under the Nazis so....." Well.....my family wasn't on spring break at that time either. The only difference is America won over the your families oppressor and America was my families oppressor and they still occupy their nations.

You don't have to accuse me of not having a clue or discrediting anyones family just because you have little patients for a discussion.

MarkMiller

Yeah, well he said a great deal more than that.

winthrop

I mentioned her specifically because she began this thread. I am fully aware others were equally "outraged" and they, too, were misinterpreting the point. Their misinterpretations could have been innocent mistakes, or like yours and RK77's, they could have been devices to shut up someone whose voice you did not like.

An addendum...regardless of the multitudes "outraged" over Jdanton's remark, engaging in the same behavior is hypocrisy. Own it, if you will, and proudly, but do not deny it.

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winthrop

Do you really not see, have you not seen previously, considerably more outrage over the Iraq war than over this extremely peripheral dust-up?

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Good riddance........

I guess if you leave the party I could join & all will be swell w/ the world.........

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julia

Not my problem that you could not understand
"I do not agree" and then I posted why in the very next sentence.

Hell, I even repasted it for you, AGAIN.

I recognize the sacrifices my family has made living under constant attack during wartime. That's a part of who I am.

If that's a rant, hell, I'm glad that I recognize my family sacrifices and that I know where I come from and respect their memory.

Ha, why would anyone want to have a discussion with you when you can't understand simple logic of one sentence that followed another?! It's multi starred above for you and for everyone to see.

This is the third time this is exchange is posted so kindly refrain from calling strong personal conviction a rant while you can't follow clear sentence to sentence logic:I have American family, too, so quit the condescending crap of "my fam liberated your fam".

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julia

Winthrop, The Hrc supporters have never clarified her position on Iraq, here. Many have asked them many many times.

None of the Hrc supporters have expressed outrage of what is going on in Iraq but prefer to cry foul at any news, information or satire they do not like or understand.

Hrc supporters, here, never answer
questions about her policy positions or platform.

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HarperLee

And the Hillary supporters here were immediately on board when
she spoke of the Umbrella of Deterrence, her Exponential Surge,
and her pledge to obliterate Iran. In stump speeches in some states
she has said, "We must win in Iraq."

If the were still a viable candidate, I would certainly want some
clarification of what the hell her stand on Iraq is. Seems to
be dependent on which demographic to which she is speaking.
A president does not have that luxury.

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winthrop

Thank you for that clarification, although I am not certain why my name was bold, unless you have seen it that way in the society pages.
I do not believe "Hillary supporters" support the Iraq war and since 2003 I have read many denunciations and criticisms of that war by those who have ultimately become Hillary supporters. That was the basis for my question. You appeared to be suggesting this matter of "Hillary-as-Hitler" was generating more outrage than five years worth of outrage over the Iraq invasion.
Now I understand you were referring to what you consider Hillary supporters' lack of clarity on her Iraq policy (although her position is on her web site, just as Mr. Obama's positions are on his) as compared to the attention this bit of irrelevant and hypocritical theater has gathered.
Am I accurate?

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MarkMiller

No you didn't, you started talking about your family in the blitz in London and resistance fighters in Germany, then said you didn't see anything wrong with a fictional situation! All you had to do was tell me what I said that you were disagreeing with. At that point there were several subjects I was replying to that you brought up!

You jumped from lethal injection to 1940s Britain and Germany....for what? To say that your family suffered under the Nazis , but you don't care about using Hitler to make fun of someone YOU DON"T LIKE? Well I gotta tell you....... I wouldn't be so proud of that because you just dirtied what they went through by using them to ...what.... to defend comparing Clinton to Adolf Hitler??!!? How fucking pathetic does that sound!

You are talking in a circle that doesn't even meet. You go back to post #49 Julia where you brought your family into the discussion to say that YOU have more right to be outraged.......and then brought up the Nazis "Inventing" lethal injection and asking me "Where's your outrage over this usage?" I answered you and threw back an analogy to make you understand that you were asking an irrelevant question! You even feigned confusion about what the outrage was supposed to be when it was YOU that took it offtrack!

I said it was probably a moot point! You had to...and continue to attempt a oneupmanship with family war time tragedy. You jumped a huge crevasse from one thing to another and get all bent out of shape for my asking you to clarify so I could understand you. That was a rant. For god's sake, I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOU! BUT SHIT, YOU JUST HAD TO GET IN A DIG THERE AS WELL!

Now you actually have the nerve to accuse me of "My Family liberated your family" shit? Now who doesn't have a clue? I said YOUR family won against those trying to take over and my family lost. Your family is free from those that tried to take away their freedom and sovereignty and my family was absorbed into the state!

Julia.....you scrambled this discussion up. Whether you did it on purpose to make a point or by accident in attempting to use your families war time experiences as a tool, but it was you that did it. Excuse the fuck outta me for trying to understand you. It won't happen again.....I can assure you of that.