What might it mean to have a Black president...can we talk?? - Page 5

BillCosby · 05-14-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by guest1234567

Ha! But you know what I'm talking about. That was happening pre 9/11, so I'm pretty sure it was less likely that a repub was doing it. And chimps?- They have too much self-respect to engage in that behavior.

No there were/are repubs that don't like him........

What is the significance of it anywayZ........

guest1234567 · 05-14-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BillCosby

What is the significance of it anywayZ........

Of the chimp-art you mean? It was just to make fun of his looks and intellegence. Petty stuff like that.

BillCosby · 05-14-2008, 02:09 PM

If you goggle chimp those are usually the ones on the first page........

OldManOnFire · 05-15-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Refuge51

For those who don't want to be united, well that's their choice, their loss, but I've always believed America was the melting pot where we all become one great blend of soup.

I'm thinking the USA is a melting pot...only up to a point. There certainly today is more integration of all people but there remains this 'group' stigma. There's Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, gays & lesbians, rich, poor, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Red-Necks, middle-class, blue collar, white collar, certain religious groups, etc. and many live in clusters. Then we have Little Tokyo, and Little China, and Little Saigon, south side of the tracks, inner-city, etc. The USA is a long way from being an open and fully accepting melting pot.

I can't remember who said this but I'm thinking it was Chris Rock who said something like 'show me a single White person who is willing to switch places with a Black person' referring to how bad discrimination remains in the USA...

Refuge51 · 05-15-2008, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OldManOnFire

I'm thinking the USA is a melting pot...only up to a point. There certainly today is more integration of all people but there remains this 'group' stigma. There's Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, gays & lesbians, rich, poor, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Red-Necks, middle-class, blue collar, white collar, certain religious groups, etc. and many live in clusters. Then we have Little Tokyo, and Little China, and Little Saigon, south side of the tracks, inner-city, etc. The USA is a long way from being an open and fully accepting melting pot.

I can't remember who said this but I'm thinking it was Chris Rock who said something like 'show me a single White person who is willing to switch places with a Black person' referring to how bad discrimination remains in the USA...

I guess I put too much faith in Obama...I really hope he can unite us.

OldManOnFire · 05-15-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Refuge51

It's their right of course! But let's not kid ourselves..if we say we hate Blacks specifically, it's a type of hate unlike any other. It usually signifies not recognizing that person's equal rights to live as a valued member of society, or to live at all. It speaks volumes to the mindset of keeping that person firmly under ones thumb.
Women are third in line after American Indians in that respect.

I agree with your comment, and thirty-forty years ago I could understand this sensitivity...but why does this continue to exist today?

Is one answer that racial discrimination runs nearly as deep today as in the past? Maybe more covert today?

When it comes to Whites and most other ethnicity's or races, there remains some social division but it usually seems workable. But when it comes to Whites and Blacks, in many cases the division runs very deep...and it's as if both parties have this chip on their shoulders and each are very very slow to find acceptance of each other...

OldManOnFire · 05-15-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BillCosby

Finding ways not to like or give respect is as racist IMO as any of that other shit...

Interesting comment...in that if I hate my neighbor, it's no big deal as long as they are not Black (assuming I am White). If they are Black then I'm a racist.

They might simply be a lousy-assed neighbor...period...and if they are Black, and I have no use for them, and want them out of my neighborhood, then I'm a racist. If they are White and I want them out of my neighborhood, then no big deal.

This is a huge part of the problem we are facing. And as long as we have these types of situations, they will not spawn open and honest dialogue between people. So we isolate more and the problem continues...

BillCosby · 05-15-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OldManOnFire

Interesting comment...in that if I hate my neighbor, it's no big deal as long as they are not Black (assuming I am White). If they are Black then I'm a racist.

They might simply be a lousy-assed neighbor...period...and if they are Black, and I have no use for them, and want them out of my neighborhood, then I'm a racist. If they are White and I want them out of my neighborhood, then no big deal.

This is a huge part of the problem we are facing. And as long as we have these types of situations, they will not spawn open and honest dialogue between people. So we isolate more and the problem continues...

Yep..... Their are issues of perception but there are ways around them......

None of this has anything to do w/ my point....... Looking for reasons to hate someone..... If your neighbor is a a loZyass neighbor for whatever reason it doesn't sound like you need to be doing much looking.........

Refuge51 · 05-15-2008, 11:11 AM

On the Jon Stewart show people explained why they wouldn't vote for Obama:
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart Official Website | Current Events & Pop Culture News, Comedy & Fake News | Comedy Central

Environment Man · 05-15-2008, 11:13 AM

Fried chicken and watermelon on the South Lawn I hope. Where tha hot sauce at?

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