Environment Man

[quote=julia;183715]Her choice is to reduce the risk of pregnancy. There are many ways to do that. But treating the conceived person as feces or urine should not be an option. Overturn Roe now. Make it a capital offense. Protect the defenseless. Stop the holocaust now.

Poverty? Stop having so much sex and it will reduce the risk. Sex should be very special anyway instead of a jog.

Environment Man

I saw it. He will apologize for saying something really stupid. Chris Matthews is trying to hide from talking about it because he does not want to publicize the 'thought.'

You seem to be enthusiastic about abortion. Probably even late term. Hell why stop there. You can take them out up to 2 or 3 years old too. Susan Smith and Andrea Yates did.

julia

Those that blindly embrace the wars of this failed presidency are confused Christians and need to read their good books a little more often.

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Environment Man

Are you a Christian? You support the holocaust of abortion so do not lecture about the Iraq war. One million innocent children are slaughtered each year in America alone. Not even Hitler was that brutal.

poetrychic

for those of you who are anti-choice, could someone please explain to me how you can proclaim america the greatest country on earth, defend freedom and democracy then wish to begin it's systematic dismantling at the hands of an emotionally, rather than practically, charged issue?

for starters, roe v. wade will never be overturned...hear that, cookie? your republican leaders need it to get you to stay in line for fundraising and votes...a tool to scare your religious side, to threaten that which you don't really understand so your fear will override logic...why do you think they bring it up over and over again every single election cycle and nothing has been done about it? no one has made motions, no one has introduced legislation, no one has called for a debate...do you really enjoy being played like that?

secondly, who are any of you to tell anyone what they can or cannot do in their lives? cookie, you need your medication to function in life, to better your quality of living...what happens if the majority think that using synthetic drugs is immoral and dangerous because they are not a natural substance created by god? that we demand those drugs be banned because they can cause more problems in the long run than the few short years of increased quality of life now? your entire life as you currently know it would cease...your pain would increase, you may even die many years before you should because you would not have access to those drugs...given that or any similar scenario, do you want someone to take the decision about your life away from you, your doctor and your family?? do you believe that would just? to sacrifice your life for my beliefs, even if you do not choose to believe the same way as i?

you people are so arrogant....your whole argument is based on the fact that you actually believe women use abortion as birth control and that if people who just use condoms then abortion would not be needed...have any of you dare done any research on the subject? have you dared expand your knowledge base to find out the reason people choose abortion? in what scenarios the procedure is medically necessary?

i, for one, sincerely doubt it....

as for tax dollars being used...this government wastes billions upon billions of our tax dollars each year for nonsense projects and pork, yet you people want to bitch and moan about something that comprises less than 1% of the entire budget? where are your priorities?

but the bottom line above all else, is that no one else in this country has any right over my body, or anyone else's for that matter, to decide for us what is or is not an appropriate medical decision...period!

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Environment Man

Murder should not be a 'choice.' Freedom and democracy should not be espoused in support of gases babies in the womb.

You are correct. A Constitutional Amendment will end this nazi practice.

You people? You mean the ones who want to protect 'other people's unborn children?' Okay.

Please don't insult our intelligence. Condoms? Please. Sex is serious business. Married couples should take it as seriously as it is. It is not JUST sport. Conception is the beginning of a human life. Just as surely as our death is an ending. To cut it out of the body and flush it down the toilet is as cruel as the Nazis putting Jews in gas chambers. If you do not want to risk getting pregnant and not wanting the baby, then STOP HAVING SEX. But do not condone the murder.

Gas chamber thinking. That innocent child deserves better. If the host has homicide in mind then society has an obligation to protect it just as it does children outside the womb.

winthrop

He already has, which he needed to do. The realization of his error
aside, however, that he is capable of conceiving and delivering such
a "quip" says much about his Christian state of mind.

I am not "enthusiastic" about any abortion, I am firm in my belief the
State should stay out of the bedrooms and bodies of its citizens.
A true conservative would agree, but religious "conservatives" are
authoritarians in disquise, not true anti-State conservatives.

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Environment Man

You are so smug and pure. So secure in your self worship.

Christian do not have perfect behavior. And cannot have perfect behavior. I knew he would apologize and he knew he had stepped in it probably right after he said it. But I have done the same here and all you can do as an imperfect human is apologize and ask forgiveness. But YOU. You place yourself above us all. God too.

God, Jesus and the Bible are the law. They clearly provide parameters for regulating bedrooms and bodies. You put too much faith in parties. I do not.

We could codify Bible principles and I would be perfectly happy. Stone adulterers even.

winthrop

I am not "pure" nor do I claim to be. I do not, however, possess the
state of mind to ad lib a joke about the possible assassination of
anyone, certainly not a presidential candidate, particularly given the
history of assassination in this country.

Yet a self described Christian, an ordained minister no less,
does have such a state of mind. Apologies are well and good, and
certainly owed in this case, but the source is still worthy of
examination. This possibility was on his mind, aimed specifically
at a Black presidential candidate, and he presented this strange
bit of thought process as humor.

And again, this was not from some jackass comic playing a backwater
nightclub, seeking to shock the drunks out of their stupor.
He is an ordained minister of a Christian church. How could such a
formulation even be in his mind? "Imperfection" does not do justice
to such a process. Should his mind not be on his "walk with Christ"
and rather than humor found in assassinating a presidential candidate?


Legally, in this country, we apply the Constitution as our standard,
not the Bible, since we are a secular republic, not a theocracy.

God, Jesus and the Bible are the law for you, but not for the
rest of us. The U.S. is not a Christian version of Iran.

No doubt, but fortunately for "adulterers" and even you, although you
do not realize it, we have not "codified Bible principles" and will not
if we are to stay the United States.

The Bible is fine as a personal guidebook, should you feel the need
for one, but it is the Constitution which protects your choice of guide-
book and without that protection, with a theocracy as the basis of
our government, you run the risk of living under someone else's
interpretation of the Bible, an interpretation that may decide you
need to be in prison.

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chrisbb

using words like "fetus" is a clever way to avoid responsibility for killing a BABY

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