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Old 05-17-2008, 10:53 AM   #241 (permalink)
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Ah yes, you're wrapped in that most effective and church-approved form of contraception.

A completely repulsive personality.
Yet you come to me. Go figure. I am the penis. You are the condom.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:55 AM   #242 (permalink)
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when you cvan abort the baby at any stage of pregnancy including partial-birth, that is murder my friend
That is very true my friend. Murdering for fucking is still murder. I would rather than not fuck than to have to murder for it.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:56 AM   #243 (permalink)
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when you cvan abort the baby at any stage of pregnancy including partial-birth, that is murder my friend
It's extremely rare to abort a fetus after it's viable, and when it is done it is done to save the life of the woman.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:57 AM   #244 (permalink)
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Again, does the fetus at ANY stage of development have the inalienable right to mother's resources, regardless of the mother's opinion on the matter? If yes, you are promoting slavery. Do i have an inalienable right to come into your house and eat your stuff and crap on your sofa? I don't think so. If you do, PM me your address.

If you don't, we are merely splitting hairs and arguing methods....
if it has two arms, two legs, a head, torso, eyes, nose, mouth and moves in the womb, what the heck is it?

a partial-birth abortion involves pulling the baby out of the cervix, except the head. the doctor then cuts the skull open and sucks out the brain. you say that in the womb, it is a lump of cells. when the doctor pulls 75% of the baby out, what is it?
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No. Birth is an exit as determined by the fetus. Abortion is an exit as determined by the mother. Each individual has rights to his or her property. Human body is individual's property. My lungs are my property. My blood is my property. If i refuse to donate blood to somebody bleeding, that does not make me a murderer. Likewise, if the mother choses not to donate her resources to the fetus, she is not a murderer. Her body is her property and she is free to manage it as she sees fit.
But so is the baby's body its body. It has the right to live. The woman does not have the right to murder. She has a right to not have sex if she will murder a pregnancy.

Too much fucking is the problem, not the unborn baby.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:59 AM   #246 (permalink)
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It's extremely rare to abort a fetus after it's viable, and when it is done it is done to save the life of the woman.
Still murder. And that is bullshit. Birthing by its very nature threatens the life of the mother. Part of the curse. No need for amnio either for a Downs baby or otherwise deformed still has the right to life. Women who want to do these things are simply spoiled and lazy.
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if it has two arms, two legs, a head, torso, eyes, nose, mouth and moves in the womb, what the heck is it?

a partial-birth abortion involves pulling the baby out of the cervix, except the head. the doctor then cuts the skull open and sucks out the brain. you say that in the womb, it is a lump of cells. when the doctor pulls 75% of the baby out, what is it?
it's a fetus, a baby does not rely on the womans lungs and circulatory, (etc and so on) systems to survive.

Beyond that, late-term abortions are very rare
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Still murder. And that is bullshit. Birthing by its very nature threatens the life of the mother. Part of the curse. No need for amnio either for a Downs baby or otherwise deformed still has the right to life. Women who want to do these things are simply spoiled and lazy.
it's not murder, check your local law book if you don't believe in science.
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Still murder. And that is bullshit. Birthing by its very nature threatens the life of the mother. Part of the curse. No need for amnio either for a Downs baby or otherwise deformed still has the right to life. Women who want to do these things are simply spoiled and lazy.

The woman has a right to life also, that's why E-man doesn't get to let her die, when her life is in jeapordy.
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Still murder. And that is bullshit. Birthing by its very nature threatens the life of the mother. Part of the curse. No need for amnio either for a Downs baby or otherwise deformed still has the right to life. Women who want to do these things are simply spoiled and lazy.
Quit using your asthma meds. Asthma by its very nature threatens the life of the person. Part of the curse.
Don't go to the doctor if you ever get sick, either. Part of the curse.
If you need an operation to save your life? Too damn bad, Eman. Part of the curse.
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