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Old 05-15-2008, 10:28 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Abortion is murder. Overturn Roe v Wade NOW. Stop having so much sex and you wont be tempted to murder your own children.

Sure it is....
and every time a sperm is not used to fertilize an egg it's voluntary manslaughter.


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Old 05-15-2008, 10:57 AM   #22 (permalink)
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How so? A veteran of what? He served in the Marines from 68 - 72, and was in Nam in 69.
Yes, my apologies, I meant he was a veteran of Viet Nam and that he has direct
connections to the Iraq war through his son's service.

Thank you for calling this error to my attention so that I could correct and clarify.
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:58 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Sure it is....
and every time a sperm is not used to fertilize an egg it's voluntary manslaughter.

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No. A human has not been created by a sperm. It IS a potential human though. According to your logic, every egg should be fertilized or its involuntary manslaughter.
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Ppl must be thinking of his son whom has done tours of duty in Iraq.
This ppl was thinking just that. Thank you for reminding me.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:07 AM   #25 (permalink)
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No. A human has not been created by a sperm. It IS a potential human though. According to your logic, every egg should be fertilized or its involuntary manslaughter.
sperm eggs zygotes fetuses are all reproductive tissue/clusters of cells that under the right circumstances has the potential to be an autonomous human.
you can't have it both ways...you must be a murderer too if your wasting sperm.
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Having it both ways is the only way he can support his argument.
It has worked that way in at least one other thread.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:25 AM   #27 (permalink)
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sperm eggs zygotes fetuses are all reproductive tissue/clusters of cells that under the right circumstances has the potential to be an autonomous human.
you can't have it both ways...you must be a murderer too if your wasting sperm.
Hold the phone. Having unprotected sex doesn't always result in pregnancy. Having an abortion is a willful act that destroys human life in the womb.

Hagel should be against abortion, and so should everyone else.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:30 AM   #28 (permalink)
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sperm eggs zygotes fetuses are all reproductive tissue/clusters of cells that under the right circumstances has the potential to be an autonomous human.
you can't have it both ways...you must be a murderer too if your wasting sperm.
No cigar Monica. A sperm is NOT a human. A fertilized egg is a human. I know what you are trying to do. Good try. In your example a man could not even have sex with a woman at all unless it was assured that she would get pregnant.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:32 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Having it both ways is the only way he can support his argument.
It has worked that way in at least one other thread.
You wish. Eman does not support baby murder, particularly the vile form where mother does the dirty deed.
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Hold the phone. Having unprotected sex doesn't always result in pregnancy. Having an abortion is a willful act that destroys human life in the womb.

Hagel should be against abortion, and so should everyone else.
Wearing a condom is a willful act that destroys reproductive tissue

"a human life in a womb" is a moral opinion, not a scientific fact.

a fetus is still a cluster of reproductive cells, that at the earlier stages is no more autonomous than an egg or a cell.
that's a scientific fact.

I am not here to argue morality with you Cookie, but E-man is wrong to call any woman who has an abortion a "murderer"


If you had a daughter who had an abortion at 3 months...would you seek the death penalty for her?
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