Hagel is anti-abortion - Page 92

Environment Man · 05-24-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by babylonDon

How about moving this thread into the religion forum, it's way past any significance to anything else.

Hagel is not a minister and Roe v Wade will be a big issue in the Prez 2008 election.

I know it probably makes you uncomfortable, but we will end abortion during the next presidential term.

Environment Man · 05-24-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Titanium Cat

Me? It is god who explicitly states that he will punish a society by dashing children into pieces and ripping the fetuses out of women's bellies. You defend his actions, you are the one who takes pleasure in it.

Again that is you stating such a requirement but it is not one given.

Just because you are weak and incapable of acting civilized without thinking that a god will punish you for doing so doesn't mean that everyone else is.

Stop projecting your own immoral core onto others.

I do not have an immoral core. My morality comes from God and I support all of his actions.

Whatever he does I support and you are a talking serpent in the garden. You seek to strike me in the heel and I will bop you up side the head. Well not really but you get the idea.

Environment Man · 05-24-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Titanium Cat

Your inability to actually argue the case is evident, you keep switching the topic to my religious views instead.

I am just amazed that you can type with your head stuck up your ass.

You must be so in love with your own ass.

Your self head stuffing, though folly to me, is a source of comfort for you I am sure.

You are in such a harsh mood today.

As an aside I saw an HBO Real Sports episode where the showed retired race horse slaughter. We haved banned the practice here but it is stil done in Canada.

Titanium Cat · 05-24-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

I do not have an immoral core.

Yes you do. You yourself admit that without your belief in god you would do dispicable acts. Your very nature is such.

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My morality comes from God and I support all of his actions.

Your morality comes from your personal perception of god and your interpretation of the rules you believe he sets, nothing more.

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Whatever he does I support and you are a talking serpent in the garden. You seek to strike me in the heel and I will bop you up side the head. Well not really but you get the idea.

Then you support the dashing of children into pieces and the ripping of fetuses out of women's bellies as punishment. That's sick and disgusting.

Titanium Cat · 05-24-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

You are in such a harsh mood today.

Sometimes reality is harsh isn't it.

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As an aside I saw an HBO Real Sports episode where the showed retired race horse slaughter. We haved banned the practice here but it is stil done in Canada.

I agree such a practice should be banned here too. But hey Canada has an abortion rate considerably lower (40%) than that of the US so we are way ahead of you.

Environment Man · 05-24-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Titanium Cat

Yes you do. You yourself admit that without your belief in god you would do dispicable acts. Your very nature is such.

Your morality comes from your personal perception of god and your interpretation of the rules you believe he sets, nothing more.

Then you support the dashing of children into pieces and the ripping of fetuses out of women's bellies as punishment. That's sick and disgusting.

My moral core is solid because there IS God. You theoretical speculation is irrelevant because it is just that.

God is the reality and only delusional self worshipping atheists are confused. Fortunately the presidential candidates agree with me. So does most of America and Canada.

Environment Man · 05-24-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Titanium Cat

Sometimes reality is harsh isn't it.

I agree such a practice should be banned here too. But hey Canada has an abortion rate considerably lower (40%) than that of the US so we are way ahead of you.

You seem to be proud of your country's lower abortion rate. As you know I go by numbers and not rates because each human life is precious.

I support life. You support no protection for the unprotected fetus. We simply disagree. Your attempt to misintepret the Exodus verse was pitiful and failed miseaably. Hopefully we will get a Constitutional Amendment on this issue and settle it for good. McCain would be more likely than Obama of course to spearhead such an effort.

Titanium Cat · 05-24-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

My moral core is solid because there IS God. You theoretical speculation is irrelevant because it is just that.

If it is irrelevant then why is it you who has repeatingly brought up that fact that you would be a horrible person doing nasty acts if there wasn't a god? It is you who begin the theoretical speculation in the first place, not me.

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God is the reality and only delusional self worshipping atheists are confused. Fortunately the presidential candidates agree with me. So does most of America and Canada.

Yeah but they also disagree with you on many specific aspects of what they think god wants, including abortion.

Titanium Cat · 05-24-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

You seem to be proud of your country's lower abortion rate.

Not at all, it was you who began the country comparison by bringing up a completely different topic. Again you, not me.

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As you know I go by numbers and not rates because each human life is precious.

LOL, well in that case the US performs 15 times as many abortions as Canada does. That makes the US 15 times as evil I guess by your logic.

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I support life. You support no protection for the unprotected fetus. We simply disagree. Your attempt to misintepret the Exodus verse was pitiful and failed miseaably. Hopefully we will get a Constitutional Amendment on this issue and settle it for good. McCain would be more likely than Obama of course to spearhead such an effort.

You know there is no chance of a Constitutional Amendment being passed on the issue. Your Bush has had over seven years most of which with a Republican congress to go forward with such an amendment and what do we see, nada.

McCain would be the two talking politician he has always been on the issue. One moment he is against repealing Row vs. Wade, the next he is.

Environment Man · 05-24-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Titanium Cat

If it is irrelevant then why is it you who has repeatingly brought up that fact that you would be a horrible person doing nasty acts if there wasn't a god? It is you who begin the theoretical speculation in the first place, not me.

Yeah but they also disagree with you on many specific aspects of what they think god wants, including abortion.

Yet the theoretical notion is irrelevant for it is fantasy. What is relevant is the real world and my real behavior.

We agree more than we disagree. After all, we are all Christians.

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