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Old 05-15-2008, 09:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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This just in...In a public statement Hillary had the following to offer..."His condescending tone is further proof of Elitism by my opponent, and its time that working, hard-working Americans, white Americans put that boy in his place."
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:08 AM   #22 (permalink)
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On the air later Wednesday, the station played a voice mail message Obama left for Agar.
In it, Obama apologized for not getting back to her. He also told her he has a bad habit of calling people "sweetie."

Obama then said: "I mean no disrespect, so I am duly chastened on that front."

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What's more significant is that Obama realized that his remark was condescending, admitted it, and apologized.

Have Hillary and McCain apologized for their condescension?

I remind you that Barack Obama promotes himself as different.

He did NOT think his remark was condescending. He says plainly that he meant no disrespect. Condescension is nothing if not disrespectful. He, again by his own admission, merely has a "bad habit."

That he is chastened implies that someone has brought to his attention that it is inappropriate and sexist to thoughtlessly...read that, with neither malice nor regret...tack endearments onto exchanges with women.

Mind, I'll grant that he regrets it now.
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:11 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I remind you that Barack Obama promotes himself as different.

He did NOT think his remark was condescending. He says plainly that he meant no disrespect. Condescension is nothing if not disrespectful. He, again by his own admission, merely has a "bad habit."

That he is chastened implies that someone has brought to his attention that it is inappropriate and sexist to thoughtlessly...read that, with neither malice nor regret...tack endearments onto exchanges with women.

Mind, I'll grant that he regrets it now. But it certainly seems that he had some help in coming to see that what he thought was no biggie is actually kinda sexist and altogether inappropriate.
NO! You mean to say he's... a HUMAN BEING?!?!?!

NO! NOO! TAKE IT BACK!

TAKE IT BAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!
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Quite a stretch.
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He, again by his own admission, merely has a "bad habit."
You know what else I heard? He SMOKES!

This and Sweetie-gate *throws up in own mouth* will surely be the downfall of this campaign.
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NO! You mean to say he's... a HUMAN BEING?!?!?!

NO! NOO! TAKE IT BACK!

TAKE IT BAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!

Sooo...you posit that to sling insincere terms of endearment around with women but not with men is a casual and common human frailty?

I disagree. In my experience...which is longer and I'm guessing more varied than yours...is that some guys do it and some guys don't. Some guys are sexist, just like some people are racist, and some guys aren't.
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I remind you that Barack Obama promotes himself as different.

He did NOT think his remark was condescending. He says plainly that he meant no disrespect. Condescension is nothing if not disrespectful. He, again by his own admission, merely has a "bad habit."

That he is chastened implies that someone has brought to his attention that it is inappropriate and sexist to thoughtlessly...read that, with neither malice nor regret...tack endearments onto exchanges with women.

Mind, I'll grant that he regrets it now.
Oh of course, a politician foolishly responding "sweetie" as a bad habit (because he knows it's a stupid thing to say) is the same thing as an outright planned strategy that specifically targets groups in condescending ways. And then when that same strategy goes well beyond condescention and invokes racial and religious bigotry.

Yeah sure, it's the same.
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Sooo...you posit that to sling insincere terms of endearment around with women but not with men is a casual and common human frailty?

I disagree. In my experience...longer and I'm guessing more varied than yours...is that some guys do it and some guys don't. Some guys are sexist, just like some people are racist, and some guys aren't.

weird...I've had women call me sweetie...a lot...yet I never see them call their girlfriends it...should I be offended?

Or is that one of those terms that only women can use?
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Sooo...you posit that to sling insincere terms of endearment around with women but not with men is a casual and common human frailty?

I disagree. In my experience...which is longer and I'm guessing more varied than yours...is that some guys do it and some guys don't. Some guys are sexist, just like some people are racist, and some guys aren't.

Man am I glad you said that.

For a minute there I was beginning to think you were full of yourself.
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When i think about all those times i was oppressed and condescended to by waitresses in diners....


I just feel used.
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