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Originally Posted by itsmeeeeeee
Led by Boomer-aged women, the group, Clinton Supporters Count Too, is holding a press conference in Columbus at noon to release this statement.



You betray your youth.

Here's the reality. It doesn't matter how passionate is this new coalition of youth voters. The Baby Boom generation is larger.

What defined block of voters is larger than the Baby Boom girls grown up? They will be dismissed as raging hippy feminists (please tell me it's a typo and not a jab) at a candidate's peril, I can promise you that.

Lotta those Baby Boomer men are established. Kids are gone off to college, they're cool. They can retire sooner than later if need or pleasure be. They are not prepared to be taxed at 50%, I can promise you that too. They won't stand for it. Like me, they'll leave.

SEPARATELY from the racist and muslim swiftboating, Barack Obama will be NAILED as a Tax & Spend Democrat, the most liberal one in Congress.

In the same way that racism will influence votes, so will wallet. They can't say it often enough on CNN that the economy is Issue Number One. Talking hope and change is one thing...it's free, for starters. When it comes to how all that hope and change is going to affect the individual's bottom line, well, there's how a person says they'll vote and there's how a person actually votes.

The dollar is almighty in America. Barack Obama cannot execute his agenda without tax hikes, and it won't be only on CEO's. It has to be considered that at least some of the undecideds will balk and that some of the supporters will bail. NO ONE is in the mood to pay higher taxes.

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RK77

They are hypocritical sore losers. If you go to one of the Hillho web sites---I forget which one---they have a compilation of all the blatantly sexist remarks that have been made by the pundits.

There problem is that Fox news made about 90% of them but these women are so desparate for attention at this point they are willing to do every executive at Fox to get heard!

RK77

Yeah---- and maybe they be as successful with this effort as they were at getting Hillary the nomination!

Could it be that their energy has been misplaced all along?

RK77

Hillary has played every sexist card she could. She has sold her sex more shamelessly than a street walker does.

But I suppose it's fair game for these ladies to do what they want to do.

There are organizations forming to prepare to finalize a kibbosh on Hillary's political career. Having women like this out there will encourage the formation of many, many, many more!

RK77

Hey muddy----maybe your time would be better spent trying to do something to save your party! It is going down for the third time!

RK77

I hear you! From the beginning of this campaign until this moment now anyone who supports Obama has been treated to the DISTINCTLY Rovian tactic of having these half crazed witches running around telling us why we are chosing to do so.

Let's see---we have be "drinking the koolaid" , we are not considering the issues but dazzled by a speech, we are denying that racism exists in America, ...........the list is interminable!

No matter how much you try to explain to these loonies on steroids that TRUTH, ACCURACY, JUDGMENT, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT SKILLS, INTEGRITY, MORALITY, FAIR PLAY, KNOWLEDGE, AND DIPLOMACY are things that we value they don't seem to get it!

And at the same time that they are bitching incessantly about somebody kissing their ass to get them to stick with the democratic party---they continue to launch the same mindless shit missles and then stare wide eyed as every day in every way many many Obama supporters give less and less of a damn about what they do, or who they vote for.

They have tried to make themselves somehow soooooo important that:

1) HILLARY is now the only white person in america who can get the vote of the white working class.

2) Hillary is the ONLY woman in the nation who can get the white woman vote!

3) If THEY can't have Hillary then they ---being the rational, responsible, non racist, non fanatical, gracious losers that they are, they will actually try to sabatoge the party as a whole.

And why? Hillary went into this election with:

---MORE name recognition than any candidate ever to run for office in the history of this nation.

---A surrogate who was the most popular politician in this party since JFK.

---More financial connections than any candidate in the history of presidential elections.

---MASSIVE polled advantages inside the dem party:

ALL last year Hillary was ahead in the polls. Going into the primary's in December Pew had her at 46% to Obama's 26%

He did not begin to surpass her in polls until early Feb--(after she pulled her Abortion mailer Rove crap in New Hampshire).


The bottom line was this election was Hillary's to lose---and she lost it!

And now these mama's from HELL want to act like it is Obama's fault???

Get over it!

Feel free to play with this interactive graph of all the polls since this began and see just how Hillary pissed this whole thing away!

Insipid

That's simply not true. Most of them have come from MSNBC. Particularly Chris Mathews.

Insipid

Howard Dean had similar advantages in 2004. His supporters were similarly angry at John Kerry. But they came together. But people like yourself don't make it easy.

One thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner. And that's certainly what you are.

itsmeeeeeee

1) the two samples of sexism posted are pretty damn weak.

2) i don't recall people calling her evil, as has been suggested. to be clear - she's been called a lot of things - inept, unethical, a dirty campaigner, a horrible fundraiser, inconsistent, insincere, etc.

so let's cut the bullshit here! NO ONE can, in good conscience, say that obama's campaign has been "intensely sexist" as these people maintain!

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Mithrall

You know, I'm not a big fan of tradition for tradition's sake. Too many evils have been excused because they are "Tradition"

Now while I can't look into thier brains and see what gears are turning, I can make some reasonable deductions about thier decision making process based upon some of thier decisions; Hillary Clinton sponsered a flag burning ammendment, I think this one tells me several things about Hillary Clinton's decision making process. 1) It tells me she is willing to alter, or at least willing to look like she is, the U.S. Constitution in order to pander to the far right. 2) It tells me she just doesn't get it that the true strength of the flag lies not in its form but in what it symbolizes. Her vote on the Iraq war, now you argue that she tried to enact safeguards against him misusing the authority they granted him, how do you explain her vote on virtually the same sort of authorization against Iran? "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." Now, you wanna talk appeasement, the Democratic leadership in Congress have been practicing appeasement for seven years. The Gas Tax Holiday; That's leadership? There wasn't a single economist that said that was a good idea. Hell even Bush was able to find a few "scientists" that thought global warming was a good thing.

No, you are right, I have never met either of them in person or spent time talking to them one on one, I probably never will. But just like 99.99% of the rest of the country, I am gonna have to rely on my observations of thier character from afar. What I have seen could not have made the difference any more stark to me. This brings me to Sniper-Gate and for the love of me, I still can't wrap my mind around this gaff and explain it in a way that is charitable to her. I have taken my fair share of psychology courses(I find the human mind fascinating, and disturbing at times) The only thing I can say for certain about Hillary is that there is something not quite right there. I will leave it at that.

There are two sides to this, is it possible that Hillary and her subordinates were taking the black vote for granted? Afterall, they are the most loyal Democratic voting block, where are they gonna go? Perhaps Bill Clinton took the title "first black President" too literally. As far as them being "out of context" I am not black but I remember seeing Hillary's "fairy-tale" comments and I found them very insulting to me personally. It came off very poorly, kinda like you right now stating that because I state that I would never vote for Hillary for President, I must be irrational.