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Old 05-16-2008, 06:57 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Of course they won't, but it will be spun that he did not say that..."she stated a rational policy" even though it's there in black and white. or let's see.... he really did not mean that.

But, Uh.....yeah, he did.... he explained what she was really saying
and the rationale behind it.

I've always liked this man, he tells it like it is...just like calling Bush's words yesterday on appeasment ..."bull crap". Gotta love him..
he pulls no punches.
He is not a neo-con like Bush who doesn't believe in talking, neither is he a pacifist, who paces around and worries if the US should actually stand up against terrorists, or rogue states.

That is realpolitik and he is a master of it.
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:15 PM   #72 (permalink)
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It was on Hardball, the very end of the interview.
I don't know if a link is available.
Unlike some folks I want to see exactly what he said before I comment & or make judgments.......... Some ppl can see a couple seconds of an hour long clip, or just read a few words of a book & jump to conclusions........ I am not one of them.......

I on the other hand did post a quote from Mr. Biden.. One you did not reply to............
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:20 PM   #73 (permalink)
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i don't have the link, i don't know if it exists.

The quotes I posted are word for word, i copied them down from wacthing my DVR. They are what he said.

Believe it or not - ur choice.


I opened the link you posted, all I see about Hillary is this:

"I think it would be a disaster if it is her plan" to cut off funding for local Iraqi forces, Biden told "Good Morning America" anchor Diane Sawyer. "I think it's counterproductive."


I can't recall what is was all about.
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Why is there no link to this story???

What exactly did he say..............

Here is the exchange:

MATTHEWS: Well, is what‘s good for the goose, good for the gander. Senator Clinton a while back, like, about a week ago, talked about obliterating the country of Iran. Talk about saber rattling. Didn‘t that sort of discourage the secular forces in Iran from standing up to the leadership?

BIDEN: Look, the context...

MATTHEWS: When you say you‘re going to obliterate the whole country.

BIDEN: No, no. No, no. The context in which she said it is the way we talked about mutual assured destruction...

MATTHEWS: I know.

BIDEN: ... in fairness to her. She said...

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MATTHEWS: ... word “obliterate”?

BIDEN: ... if they attacked, if they attacked Israel, we would respond. And maybe...

MATTHEWS: No, obliterate.

BIDEN: Well, obliterate? That‘s what happens when you respond. Guess what, Chris? No way of using nuclear weapons in Iran without it resulting in obliteration.

MATTHEWS: So you think that wasn‘t over the top by her.

BIDEN: No, I think a better word could have been chosen, but she stated a rational policy, a policy these guys...

MATTHEWS: You don‘t think the Democrats...

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MATTHEWS: You don‘t think Hillary Clinton and George Bush are competing to see who can be the most hawkish in defense of Israel? You don‘t think this is politics, domestic American politics, at work here?

BIDEN: No, I think it‘s a statement of policy. Look, I—you know, I‘m here to defend what I think is a rational position taken.

MATTHEWS: Yes.

BIDEN: And the rational position is, Iran should understand that if they use nuclear weapons against any other power, they run the risk of literally being obliterated...

MATTHEWS: Yes.

BIDEN: ... just like we talked about what would happen if Saddam Hussein had used nuclear weapons we were told he had but he never had.

MATTHEWS: OK. It‘s great having you on. Thanks for coming on on a big news night, Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

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millions of years of evolution or created a couple thousand years ago............

No matter............ You really gotta wonder how far we came & just how far we gotta go when obliterating millions of innocent ppl is
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