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Old 05-19-2008, 05:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Time to put ego to bed and support the nominee

It appears, short os something extremely unusal, Obama will be the nominee of the democratic party.

I know there are people who said they would not support the one they didn't support during the campaign.

I've been a vocal Hillary supporter. I believe Obama has made promises he can't possibly deliver on, but he has my full support as the nominee.

His voting record is one I approve of with few exceptions. He is smart, articulate, and will, I expect, make few mistakes.

The alternative is no longer Hillary, but McCain.

When on considers all the aspects of what is riding on this election, it is time to put our pride and ego aside, and support the nominee.

I've often said that I believe voting records are the best evidence of what a candidate believes, as that's where the "rubber hits the road."

Obama's voting record is nearly identical to Hillary's, so it seems strange to me that anyone who supported her would not support him in the general election.

Anything else, to my mind, is simply cutting off your nose to spite your face, and it will be future generations who will pay dearly.
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good to see you JDanton

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Old 05-19-2008, 06:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I've been a vocal Hillary supporter. I believe Obama has made promises he can't possibly deliver on, but he has my full support as the nominee.
And Hillary hasn't? Still not sure what promises Obama has made that you are referring to but how do you explain Hillary's Gas Tax Holiday? If your gonna finally get behind Obama, get behind him, stop with the BS about him making promises he can't keep. Your candidate pandered about a gas tax holiday that wouldn't do anything to actually lower prices and most likely would have ended up causing them to rise long term. She did this all the while knowing that she didn't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting it done, especially in the timeline she was talking about, this year. So, let's stop the hypocritical-passive/aggressive talk about promises he can't keep.
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It appears, short os something extremely unusal, Obama will be the nominee of the democratic party.

I know there are people who said they would not support the one they didn't support during the campaign.

I've been a vocal Hillary supporter. I believe Obama has made promises he can't possibly deliver on, but he has my full support as the nominee.

His voting record is one I approve of with few exceptions. He is smart, articulate, and will, I expect, make few mistakes.

The alternative is no longer Hillary, but McCain.

When on considers all the aspects of what is riding on this election, it is time to put our pride and ego aside, and support the nominee.

I've often said that I believe voting records are the best evidence of what a candidate believes, as that's where the "rubber hits the road."

Obama's voting record is nearly identical to Hillary's, so it seems strange to me that anyone who supported her would not support him in the general election.

Anything else, to my mind, is simply cutting off your nose to spite your face, and it will be future generations who will pay dearly.
The Hillary campaign talking points you echoed virtually word for word here were bullshit. And, despite lies to the contrary, their voting records ARE NOT the same. Obama DID NOT support predatory lending, while Hillary did.

That aside, it was time to support the nominee over three months ago. It was clear then that Hillary had lost and would not make up the difference.
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clearly, hillary has made a lot of promises that AREN'T possible, like the gas tax holiday!

i mean, how the hell did people buy that? how did she think she could even MAKE a promise to do something for THIS summer BEFORE she'd take office if she WERE nominated - something that couldn't get done fast enough to happen even if summer WEREN'T a couple of weeks away?

but that's beside the point.

the point is, jd is finally coming to terms with the reality that obama's won the nomination, the truth that policy wise, there's very little difference, and with the tremendous and very realistic urgency of the party needing to put all the crap behind them to unite against the REAL enemy - that wack job, john mc cain!
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hillary is still a little bit ahead in the popular vote and will extend that before the convention. I think there is going to be a lot of arguing in Denver and it will probably take a lot of ballots before the Democrats decide on a nominee.

I wonder if the Cult of Obama will put their egos to bed and support Hillary Clinton if she does manage to win the nomination.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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clearly, hillary has made a lot of promises that AREN'T possible, like the gas tax holiday!

the point is, jd is finally coming to terms with the reality that obama's won the nomination, the truth that policy wise, there's very little difference, and with the tremendous and very realistic urgency of the party needing to put all the crap behind them to unite against the REAL enemy - that wack job, john mc cain!
Wrong. He is saying the same crap he has said hundreds of times before.

I bet you hard cold cash that he will be back here in hours or days whining about Jeremiah Wright and chanting his imbecilic mantra that Obama is lying when he says he wants to change the way Washington does business. (Actually in other posts this morning, he is still saying that "no one has answered his question" -- which is blatantly untrue.)

I would lay odds that any Hillary supporter who can actually defend her remark about obliterating Iran (danton and others) will never vote for Obama in the general election.

In stump speeches before certain audiences,
Hillary has repeatedly said, "We must win in Iraq."
McCain promises we will win in Iraq by 2013.
Obama is the only candidate who talks about
withdrawal, not victory. Clinton and Obama are
not the same.

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It appears, short os something extremely unusal, Obama will be the nominee of the democratic party.

I know there are people who said they would not support the one they didn't support during the campaign.

I've been a vocal Hillary supporter. I believe Obama has made promises he can't possibly deliver on, but he has my full support as the nominee.

His voting record is one I approve of with few exceptions. He is smart, articulate, and will, I expect, make few mistakes.

The alternative is no longer Hillary, but McCain.

When on considers all the aspects of what is riding on this election, it is time to put our pride and ego aside, and support the nominee.

I've often said that I believe voting records are the best evidence of what a candidate believes, as that's where the "rubber hits the road."

Obama's voting record is nearly identical to Hillary's, so it seems strange to me that anyone who supported her would not support him in the general election.

Anything else, to my mind, is simply cutting off your nose to spite your face, and it will be future generations who will pay dearly.
Are you going to do your usual obnoxious shit and post this on every thread?

There are WORLDS of difference between Hillary's voting record and Obama's when you look at their entire legislative history's. You are still repeating the Hillary talking points. The distortion there from day one was that Hillary wanted to be excused on her voting record before Obama came to senate.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:01 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I am all for that ---- as long as we recognize that a "repuke" is not a "republican". It is a person with a certain set of governing personal values and ideologies.

It's time to reject these attitudes and practices NO MATTER WHO THESE PEOPLE CLAIM TO VOTE FOR!
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The Hillary campaign talking points you echoed virtually word for word here were bullshit. And, despite lies to the contrary, their voting records ARE NOT the same. Obama DID NOT support predatory lending, while Hillary did.

That aside, it was time to support the nominee over three months ago. It was clear then that Hillary had lost and would not make up the difference.
All they mean is that they are temporarily satisfied with the amount of obscene heinous bullshit they have wrought and now that they are LOSERS they want to be welcomed with hugs and kisses as though they had not been showing their asses for 17 months!

They want us all to forget that they support racism and lying and schizoid behavior patterns. They want us to ignore that they are too a man people with NO internal moral compass.
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