OldManOnFire

Polls: Clinton does better in the swing states
Posted: 12:00 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney


A new poll shows Clinton is in a better position to win some swing states than Obama.
(CNN) — A new series of Quinnipiac polls out of Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania appear to bolster Hillary Clinton's argument that she is better positioned than Barack Obama to beat John McCain in the crucial swing states.

According to the polls released Thursday, Hillary Clinton would beat John McCain in all three states by wide margins while Barack Obama would lose to the Arizona senator in Ohio and Florida and narrowly beat McCain in Pennsylvania.

CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said the poll could be a "early-warning sign" for Democrats, though cautioned early polls often are not predictive.

Specifically, the poll found Clinton tops McCain in Florida by 7 points (48 percent to 41 percent), in Ohio by 7 points (48 percent to 41 percent) and in Pennsylvania by 13 percent (50 percent to 37 percent).

Meanwhile the poll finds McCain would beat Obama by 4 points in Florida (45-41 percent) and by 4 points in Ohio (44 percent to 40 percent). Obama beats McCain in Pennsylvania, but by a narrower margin than Clinton does — he beats McCain by 6 points there, 46 percent to 40 percent.

According to Quinnipiac, the difference between Clinton and Obama's performances in the state can be traced to the fact that several Clinton supporters and white working class voters there say they will support McCain over Obama if the Illinois senator is the party's nominee. (Related: Can Obama win over the working class)

"This could be an early-warning sign for the Democrats, particularly since Obama did not do well in the Pennsylvania and Ohio primaries," Holland said. "On the other hand, any poll conducted in May — particularly when the primaries have not finished — may have little predictive value."

The last presidential candidate to win the White House without winning two of the three largest swing states was John F. Kennedy in 1960. (Kennedy won Pennsylvania that year, but lost Ohio and Florida.)

But the 2008 electoral map could look different than most recent elections, both the McCain and Obama campaigns have said. Each candidate has shown to strongly appeal to independent and moderate voters — meaning more states could be up for grabs this year than has been the case in past elections.

View more polling information at the CNN Election Center

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From the title I thought maybe McCain crapped his pants on stage.

Needless to say I was severely disappointed.

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If that was the story it would have been titled: Poops...now what???

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as most of the polls are ALREADY demonstrating, in states like pennsylvannia, etc., obama is starting to win against mcSame in more and more of the swing states - and once he starts campaigning in them, and can QUIT FUCKING AROUND with primaries, his numbers will come up even faster.

obama's numbers improving in key states

it's pretty rich that you point to polls that would look a hell of lot better at this point in time had hillary had the grace and good sense to drop out a couple of months ago...

what a fucking waste of time, money and energy this has been!

and for WHAT?!!!
a dangerously strained and divided party?

count your blessings i'm feeling fairly generous today..
or you'd have a new butt hole!

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I'm not pointing towards any polls...I shared a news article which pointed to certain polls but what the hell--always try to shoot the messenger.

Yeah right...what a waste to allow people in all states a right to vote in the primaries. And more right that we should allow any candidate to fight it out until the end since today we prefer dropouts in order to satisfy our self-serving needs.

Says who? Says you? If the Dem party is incapable of having an all-out primary, and will fracture to pieces as you 'guess', then they are not worthy enough to be in the contest.

Go ahead and show your maturity and intelligence...stop making idle threats towards me...let the world hear your mature voice...

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yawn...

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forget it Old Man; your resonable stance backed with facts, doesn't fly with Obamaniacs.

Obama will campaign in these staes - but so will McCain..

One way to ensure a win is to put Hillary on the Tix.
But it seems the fanatics would prefer to lose then bend.
They may very well get their wish.

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OldManOnFire

Logically speaking, Clinton would have a better chance overcoming McCain in the general election. But the blind-faith Obama supporters are excited about their blind-faith in the general election, so today blind-faith rules the moment.

Which of the three remaining candidates is best suited to be president? My logic says it would be McCain, second it would be Clinton, and last would be Obama.

Of these three candidates, which have the most negatives to overcome? Let's see...McCain is older and has supported Bush...and Clinton is a Clinton and a woman...and Obama simply has zero experience along with very very close association with Wright and Rezko and a wife who has not been proud of the USA, and is Black. How will these negatives play out in the no-holds-barred general election?

In these above statements I did not include my personal thoughts of who 'I believe or think' should be president. I'm just trying to look at it logically, without personal bias, and this is the way I see it.

Further, Obama has alienated as many people as he has brought into the game...like MI and FL and many of the working class. We can say since McCain is a Republican there is no way he should win...but 'we' forget there are equal numbers of Republicans in the USA and depending on how McCain does, it will be hard to expect them to switch their votes to the Dem candidate so I don't see being Republican as being a huge negative.

Why would we vote the least experienced person into the most critical job position in the entire world?? How can we let our pride and loyalty to a silly political party or a single candidate persuade how we vote for president of the USA?

If this is just a personality choice, then let's bring back Bob Barker and just make all the decisions in a 3-hour game-show in prime time...we can let the candidates sing and dance their way into our hearts...

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Or it can be called 'DIALING FOR DOLLARS' where it's like a telethon, and the candidates can say things, or show off their skills like singing or tap dancing, and the public calls in and pledges hundreds of millions of dollars...and the candidate who has the most money at the end of the show is the new president.

There can be categories of performance like; who is the best liar, who is the most arrogant, who appears to have the best private agenda, who is the dumbest, who needs all their words written for them, who has the best smile...that grin which is backed by deceit, etc.

I suggest this type of show will have more citizen participation than the general election will have...and if this is true...no wonder the US is in such bad shape today...

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