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Old 05-22-2008, 11:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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This is why the demoratic party pisses me off to no end.

With everything in favor of a democratic win the fuckers still find a way to lose.
"The democrats never lose an opportunity to lose an opportunity" Molly Ivins (probably badly from memory)
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"The democrats never lose an opportunity to lose an opportunity" Molly Ivins (probably badly from memory)
Now that I've thought on it (puff-puff) it's "The democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity"
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Now that I've thought on it (puff-puff) it's "The democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity"
It's why they'll be the first party to collapse and fade into history before the republicans. Obama and a few others holding office are the last bastion, and if they're sabotaged by the likes of of the Clintons and other appeasers to the right wing then it's finished, and scant few voters will miss them.
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It's why they'll be the first party to collapse and fade into history before the republicans. Obama and a few others holding office are the last bastion, and if they're sabotaged by the likes of of the Clintons and other appeasers to the right wing then it's finished, and scant few voters will miss them.
I hope not, there's nothing more dangerous than a one party government.
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I hope not, there's nothing more dangerous than a one party government.
The irony is that republicans need democrats to run against. Were the republicans forced to run on their own merits and ideology rather than scaring dumb voters away from "liberal tax'n'spenders" they too would rapidly fall under the grinding wheels of history.
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The irony is that republicans need democrats to run against. Were the republicans forced to run on their own merits and ideology rather than scaring dumb voters away from "liberal tax'n'spenders" they too would rapidly fall under the grinding wheels of history.
You mean no more political parties? Stop it, you're just teasing me.....
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You mean no more political parties? Stop it, you're just teasing me.....
Well... no. There'll just be new ones. The Libertarians already stand in line to replace the republicans. The question is will a liberal party like the Greens replace the democrats.
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Well... no. There'll just be new ones. The Libertarians already stand in line to replace the republicans. The question is will a liberal party like the Greens replace the democrats.
Nah, both parties are batshit crazy. Take a good idea and run it straight to 'wing'ism.

I figure it'll all settle out, as these two parties (Dems and Reps) have traditionally done. The corporations that control them only control them as long as the corporations help gurantee the power attainment that is the root of party survival. '
Once those corporations and like become a hinderence, the parties will once again court and win over the moderate/centrist enough to regain their party solidarity.
It's the swing and undecided that will regain their former VILF (voter I'd like to f') ability and we regain our previous ying and yang balance driven thru traditional great American shallow decision making by the voters.

Or maybe I just hate this time a year, considering my choices for lead citizen.
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Nah, both parties are batshit crazy. Take a good idea and run it straight to 'wing'ism.
That'll likely change when moderates look for a new ideological home.

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Not this time. It's never been as bad as now, not even during Nixon's time.
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That'll likely change when moderates look for a new ideological home.



Not this time. It's never been as bad as now, not even during Nixon's time.
So the moderates will leave, or be forced out of the Democratic Party?
Hmm. So I may have a new home !!
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