itsmeeeeeee

i have been hearing and reading all day that obama insiders and clinton insiders are meeting to work out an exit strategy for hillary... though both campaigns deny direct talks, etc.

and i have to admit that the thought of an obama / clinton ticket makes me throw up a little in my mouth every time i think of it after the campaign she's run, and how she'll motivate the gop clinton haters even if she's just the VP, etc.

but then, i like obama because of how smart and wise he is...
and i'm not saying, nor is he, that hillary should, or will, be on the ticket - but when i read this article, i realized that i shouldn't worry about it. that obama's smart and wise enough to do the right thing. now my only reservation is the fact that it's hillary no one can ever trust! but i suspect he knows that, too.

what cabinet position WOULD hillary be good in?
and what cabinet postion WOULD she accept - if not the VP?


Obama Proposes 'Team of Rivals' Cabinet
Political Punch


May 22, 2008 9:14 PM

An amusing question and an historical answer at Sen. Barack Obama's town meeting in Boca Raton, Fla.

The questioner asked, "You're about to achieve a truly wonderful, historic nomination, but we both know unless you, and we, win in November, it's going to be a footnote. So, my question is when the time comes, will you be willing to consider everybody who is a possible help to you as a running mate, even if his or her spouse is an occasional pain in the butt?"

Obama first begged off the presumption that his nomination is a done deal -- "I don't want to jump the gun," he said -- but then he pivoted and jumped the gun a touch.

"I will tell you, though, that my goal is to have the best possible government, and that means me winning," Obama said, per ABC News' Sunlen Miller. "And so, I am very practical minded. I'm a practical-minded guy. And, you know, one of my heroes is Abraham Lincoln."

Obama then referred to "a wonderful book written by Doris Kearns Goodwin called 'Team of Rivals,' in which [she] talked about [how] Lincoln basically pulled in all the people who had been running against him into his Cabinet because whatever, you know, personal feelings there were, the issue was, 'How can we get this country through this time of crisis?'"

Lincoln, FYI, appointed three of his rivals for the GOP presidential nomination to his cabinet -- three men who at the time loathed him.

William H. Seward became secretary of state, Salmon P. Chase became secretary of the treasury, and Edward Bates became attorney general.

Another former rival, Edwin Stanton -- who once called Lincoln a "long armed ape" -- became secretary of war.

"That has to be the approach that one takes," Obama said, "whether it's vice president or cabinet, whoever. And by the way that does not exclude Republicans either. You know my attitude is that whoever is the best person for the job is the person I want. ... You know, if I really thought that John McCain was the absolute best person for the Department of the Homeland Security, I would put him in there."

An audience member yelled out: "No!"

"No, I would, if I thought that he was the best," Obama said. "Now, I'm not saying I do. I'm just saying that's got to be the approach that you take because part of the change that I'm looking for is to make sure that we're reminded of what we have in common as Americans."

Andrew Sullivan proposed the Team of Rivals idea earlier this month when pitching a unity ticket with Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., as vice president.

So ... Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., as secretary of state? (Sorry, Sen. Kerry.) Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., as commerce secretary? Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., as attorney general?

Where would you put Mike Gravel?

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HarperLee

Goodwin's book is titled Team of Rivals, not Team of Probable Assassins.

According to Time magazine, it is Bill Clinton who is pushing for Hillary to be VP:

In Bill Clinton's view, she has earned nothing short of an offer to be Obama's running mate, according to some who are close to the former President. Bill "is pushing real hard for this to happen," says a friend.

Link to Time article What Does Hillary Want?, May 22, 2008:

What Does Hillary Want? - TIME

West Virginia and Kentucky exit polls would indicate that Hillary's demographic is non-college educated white women over 50 and white persons who say that would not vote for a black candidate.
I fail to see what demographic she could deliver to Obama if he made her his running mate -- he will still be black.

No one has explored the possibility that the Clintons have quite probably so alienated black voters that they might stay home if she
is even on the ticket.

I cannot think of one cabinet position for which she would be qualified.

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Oliver Stone on George W. Bush: "the banality of evil"

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

itsmeeeeeee

i used to think she'd make a great secretary of state...
the new madeline albright...

but i no longer feels she's demonstrated ANY evidence of wisdom, diplomacy, or that she could be trusted to implement anyone's agenda or policies but her OWN!

all she's proven is that she'll do or say positively ANYTHING to further her OWN political agenda, and a complete disregard for what's best for the country.

she's shown her true colors to be short-sighted, disingenuous, manipulative, and dangerously self-centered.

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Heretic

Two distinctions need to be made between Lincoln's presidency and Obama's pending presidency.

1) Lincoln ensured that those hostile to him also were rivals amongst each other and were preocupied by what other appointees were doing. In this case the only rival is Hillary, and she has all her eneregies to focus on "pissing inside the tent" as well as "pissing out of the tent."

2) The vice presidency is much more powerful now than ever before. This partly due to Al Gore, but it took Dick Cheney to turn this into a truly dangerous office that has the potential to destabilize the Separation of Powers principle our republic most depends on for our nation's survival. If a rival to the presidential candidate is placed in this office we, as a country, risk the danger of parallel executive branches that- in a rather extreme scenario, could lead to a coup d'etat and maybe the end of democracy in the U.S.

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"In space no one can hear you scream. in D.C. it won't matter..." -Clinton Resurrection: The Alien Queen lives!