Originally Posted by aloysious

Same here, not Libertarian, but libertarian. I'd consider myself an independent thinker who will defend the right as well as the left, as well as attack both when I deem it appropriate.

Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

From what I've seen. most of the others no longer think it's worthwhile to post here, cause we just get slammed
( by some - but not all ), or it just degenerates into hatred, or name calling.

I've thought of posting a few things, but it really isn't worth it, because if it's a Hillary idea - it has to be bad.

It' like 1AM, so my brain can't think of any concrete examples.
BTW - I've condemed the statement, but not the person,
because I just don't think Hillary wants Obama dead/ others here seem to cling on to that view. so again: what's the point.

I'm just a dumb thickheaded Polok - so it don't bother me.
I come here to try to make a few points, but i don't expect to be listened to, or taken seriousy.

Originally Posted by aloysious

If it makes you feel any better, it gets kinda lonely around here for me too. I'm probably the only libertarian left that posts here. No longer do I see the thoughtful posts from Brainpolice and from the old BM board, CBD.
I particularly miss the debates on economics and global warming.
I also no longer see many thoughtful posts from the Right, such as Dougdougless, on the old board.
Actually, I miss the rants, debates and insults from the Left, too. Number Six comes to mind.
But back to Hillary... I'd think it's damn hard to defend her, the lightning rod she has always been and probably more so now.

Originally Posted by ericgtr

Neither. She made it very clear that he could get assassinated and that gives validity to notion she should stay in the race. There's no two ways about that and no other interpretations for it. It was a despicable thing to say from a despicable person, I really thought she was beyond something that low but I was proven wrong once again. She not only will fail in this race but I believe it will ruin any chance she's ever had of gaining the presidency.

Originally Posted by RK77

So why is it okay for you to condemn the statement and not the person making it?

Why don't you have to disown her?

That was the argument you adamantly made regarding Obama and his pastor for several weeks!

Why would you insult an entire group of people by trying to hide your moral relativity behind their heritage?

Is there ANY moral standard that you have----ANY principle that does not mold to your whim and fancy? Do you have ANY OUNCE of integrity whatsoever?

Originally Posted by Refuge51

Hey then you should have a really thick skin. A Taurus and a Polock?
Damn good combo...my dad is a Polock and a Taurus too

Originally Posted by ericgtr

Neither. She made it very clear that he could get assassinated and that gives validity to notion she should stay in the race. There's no two ways about that and no other interpretations for it. It was a despicable thing to say from a despicable person, I really thought she was beyond something that low but I was proven wrong once again. She not only will fail in this race but I believe it will ruin any chance she's ever had of gaining the presidency.

Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

Because of the CONTINUING anti-American hate speech by the Rev. Hatemonger spewed for over 20 years with Obama's tacit approval - that is the difference.

You'd have to believe Hillary WANTS Obama killed.
You'd have to see a lifetime pattern of her hate; to equate the 2.

Even Obama says it was done by fatique - which doesn't excuse the statement in itself - but does excuse the speaker,
as long as she fully apologizes, ( Something else "the good rev" refuses to do)

Originally Posted by RK77

When those folks stop in they seem to get into the non election forums and stay away from Election 2008. I was not at the BM forums very often but I read there from time to time.

Brainpolice is here more than the rest---but definitely not as a Hillary supporter (doesn't seem to be an ENTHUSIASTIC mccain supporter either---which may be part of why the right is relatively silent right now.)

Originally Posted by RK77

Wright was a pastor not a hatemonger.

Hillary has a LONG ---- VERY LONG---VERY WELL DOCUMENTED History of hateful racist slurs!

You did not accept Obama's feelings about his pastors words!

What kind of fucking HYPOCRTITE are you to chose to accept what he has to say about Hillary's words now?