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Old 06-04-2008, 06:02 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Right... 'cause we all know Heretic, who has hated Hillary Clinton for literally 100 decades, is fully representative of 'them'.

And you wonder why Hillary supporters are considered racist (a.k.a. prejudiced/discriminatory)
Who considers Hillary supporters racist besides RK77?

Also, does his irrational hatred for Hillary excuse his "bitch" comment? And does it make it less misogynistic. And why are you working overtime to deflect that shameful statement? If an Clinton supporter said "Damn, that ****** won", i'd be right there with you condemning him. I wouldn't be saying, "But there's Obama supporters who are misogynistic" or "Well, he always hated Obama". If you can't defend the statement itself, don't try.

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Old 06-04-2008, 06:10 AM   #22 (permalink)
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All Obama volunteers need to inform your superiors that if I [and undoubtably others] see Hillary's name on the VP spot Obama WILL lose our votes. We want the bitch gone with no chance for any place at any level in his administration.

"That is all."
From the Op Ed thread (I thought I might repeat this here):

I watched either CNN or MSNBC all evening. I watched her speech. I didn't see this way. She carried on a bit and her speech could have been shorter. I didn't see her disgrace herself. It's an ugly spin we would do better to discourage.

I don't need any more hate.

I have had enough of prejudice. I have had enough of violence. I have had enough of idiotic vitriol.

I don't like Hillary Clinton either but she does appear to be the people's number two choice. As such she might be chosen as the vice president. Like I mentioned before--I like the idea of the people's second choice being number two. I can get beyond not liking her. She might be the best choice for winning, maybe not. I don't think she's the best choice for the country. However, a win by the Democrats vs. the current repugnicans is without doubt the best choice for the country.


There's not a chance in hell that I'd cut my nose off to spite my face and vote for mccain. He represents those things I despise above: hate, prejudice, violence, war, hypocrisy,cheating, lying, greed...and even self serving false humility. If you wish to carry on, carry on against those who will do you real harm, leave the nose on your face alone.
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Old 06-04-2008, 06:12 AM   #23 (permalink)
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All Obama volunteers need to inform your superiors that if I [and undoubtably others] see Hillary's name on the VP spot Obama WILL lose our votes. We want the bitch gone with no chance for any place at any level in his administration.

"That is all."
She isn't exactly top of my list either...but there's NO WAY, Obama will lose my vote if he picks her.

That's exactly what the right wing douchebag machine is counting on......

Being picked for VP, might give her a little bit of much needed humility.
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Old 06-04-2008, 06:34 AM   #24 (permalink)
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She isn't exactly top of my list either...but there's NO WAY, Obama will lose my vote if he picks her.
Nor will he lose mine. His message of change will be undercut, but I'm hoping most Americans will see that he had to bring her in on his ticket in the spirit of party unity.

I'm sure the Obama camp is already making a list of the do's and don'ts of Bill Clinton if Obama makes Hillary an offer.
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Old 06-04-2008, 07:19 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I'm sure the Obama camp is already making a list of the do's and don'ts of Bill Clinton if Obama makes Hillary an offer.

Dee Dee Myers was a loyal Clinton minion. She has tirelessly defended Hillary Clinton on political shows since this campaign began. Yesterday Bill Clinton called Myers' husband a "sleazy, slimy scumbag" (because of Vanity Fair article).

It was barely covered, but in two separate stump speeches on April 10, Bill Clinton said about Obama: "Vote for me; I don't rob banks."
and "Vote for me; I don't steal cars."

Hillary spoke icily of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s assassination in June 1968 as a reason for why she stays in the race.

Any list of do's and don'ts for Bill Clinton would not be worth the paper they were written on. He is a power-hungry, attention starved loose cannon. Both Clintons are bitter and angry and vindictive and
totally conscienceless.

A deal has to be made where a cabinet position can be offered to Hillary in which she can "do no harm."

It also should be pointed out that it is not a sure thing that she would pass the vetting process for Vice President, Supreme Court Justice, or any cabinet position. Obama has gotten no credit for
the fact that he did not use innumerable past and present Clinton scandals against her in this primary.

Remember Operation Chaos?

The Republicans have been slobbering since the campaign began for Hillary to get the nomination because they new McCain could defeat her. If Hillary were the vice presidential candidate, all the
old baggage and new baggage would be unpacked and embellished. Bill Clinton goes to trial in California in November. Do you think the GOP won't use that?

And how many Supreme Court justices do you know whose spouses are disbarred lawyers, who flunked the bar, and whose only legal experience is with a corporate law firm and as the token female
head of the board of directors of a corporation?
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From the Op Ed thread (I thought I might repeat this here):

I watched either CNN or MSNBC all evening. I watched her speech. I didn't see this way. She carried on a bit and her speech could have been shorter. I didn't see her disgrace herself. It's an ugly spin we would do better to discourage.

I don't need any more hate.

I have had enough of prejudice. I have had enough of violence. I have had enough of idiotic vitriol.

I don't like Hillary Clinton either but she does appear to be the people's number two choice. As such she might be chosen as the vice president.
Fuck that! She gets jack shit! The vice presidency is just too dangerous to let her in it. Plus, she'll go out of her way to be a liability in order to hamstring Obama in the general election. By forcing her way onto the ticket creates the perception of Obama being weak in that he had to give into her demands.

I say NO!

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Like I mentioned before--I like the idea of the people's second choice being number two. I can get beyond not liking her. She might be the best choice for winning, maybe not. I don't think she's the best choice for the country. However, a win by the Democrats vs. the current repugnicans is without doubt the best choice for the country.
This guy hasn't been paying attention if he still likes her. That or he's just being told by his editor to kis her ass.

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There's not a chance in hell that I'd cut my nose off to spite my face and vote for mccain. He represents those things I despise above: hate, prejudice, violence, war, hypocrisy,cheating, lying, greed...and even self serving false humility. If you wish to carry on, carry on against those who will do you real harm, leave the nose on your face alone.
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See, this is what's missing. Taking Hillary as a VP will be cutting off the nose to spite the face. She'll completely kill Obama's chances against McCain. Hillary would shank Obama with a smile, and that's why she should be allowed nowhere near the vp spot.
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