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Do Progressive Democrats live in their own bubble?
Obama’s superb campaign is a proud moment for the country. It could be the beginning of an American redemption in the eyes of the world. What made me think that Obama really could win this election was hearing my Republican wife call Obama "inspirational", and seeing the thousands of people at his speaking events. I found this post on another site and thought it stated my fears so clearly and realistically.
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“I truly believe that at this point in America’s history we need a president who will not just continue ... basically the policies we have followed in recent years. We need a president with transformational qualities.” "For that reason, I will be voting for Barack Obama.” - Former Secretary of State Colin Powell “You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.” Gov Palin explaining her national security credentials. |
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The real hope is in the fact that we do not yet know...as opposed to
knowing without the slightest doubt that this country will not elect a Black man, which certainly would have been the case not at all long ago. Mr. Obama certainly has the rhetorical talents to make Mr. McCain look like the ineffectual, out of date and pandering flip-flopper he very clearly is, and if the voters of this country really want to change the course of the past eight years, if they have learned that having a beer with someone is a fine criteria for a weekend barbeque host but insufficient at best for a president, if they have learned that "conservative" economic policies of giving corporations whatever they want even if it all but destroys the workers who make their profits possible, if they have learned that our brand of self governing, which at least attempts to be fair and equitable to disparate points of view, cannot be exported behind a gun or after a bomb, then Mr. McCain will be rejected by a landslide far too large for the more shadowy forces of Republican operatives to steal yet again. Mr. Obama has the talent to be elected in spite of the long, ugly history of race relations in this country. I believe this time even the remnants of that history may be overwhelmed, and we can see history made, this time in a good way. But we will not know for sure until the day it happens. Until then we can only work and, yes, hope. |
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He's very capable. But we can't put it all on him, to take this historic step.
We will have to work extremely hard this time, to defeat those who fear this kind of progress. We will have to make the extra effort to break this barrier, which while eroded, still exists. It will make it easier that Obama is such a worth while standard bearer.
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True " progressives" don't identify themselves as liberal- but the words has been bastardized to just mean liberal. Progressive thinking is outside the box of liberal/conservative It's the idea of looking for a solution, or a best policy, regardless of idealogy. - at least that's my take on it.
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that is proffered so often. While Mr. Bush's "uniter not divider" claim was more self promotional smoke and mirrors, it seems Mr. Obama himself, if not some of his supporters, is willing, indeed anxious, to reach across divides and find mutual solutions. The problem of course is with the Republicans and whether they are willing to put aside their previously successful methods of fear and attack; assuming there are enough of them left in the congress after January to matter. |
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I don't really understand this slam against progressive dems.
-Progressive dems were against the Iraq war and were most skeptical of the slogans "war will pay for itself", "greeted as liberators", "Mission accomplished", etc. How did that work out for the country? -Progressive Dems were against the appointments of Sec of state Rice, AG Alberto Gonzales, Justice Roberts and Alito. How that work out for the rest of the country? (Continued failed war policy, pro immenent domain, pro-corp legislation, etc. etc.) Progressive dems support National Election integrity. How did that work out in '04? Before slamming a political group why not find more about their policies and the people behind it.
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willing to meet is fine, but hard compromises are what gets it done.Time will tell
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does it just mean very liberal? or does it mean searching outside the box, for practicle, progressive ideas to get things done?
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Do Progressive Democrats live in their own bubble? I just posted some progressive Dem positions for which we were slammed for years. But guess what? Americans have finally reached a tipping point and are are the sick of all the political posturing that has been going on that last plus seven years. People are also sick of political labels because the many great problems facing our country will take Americans to solve, not political labels. Pssst! That's a known right wing tactic to use excessive political labels and claim that this country is soooo divided. ![]()
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