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Old 06-04-2008, 01:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The wording is much better than "Obliteration" though. Thank God we don't have that out there representing us anymore.


Let me get this straight... so it's the choice of words for you? "Everything" surely means obliteration if it gets to that -"if Iran directly threatenes Israel", which I've addressed here before, but you just like the pretty talk, even though it means the same thing. But it's okay now that it is coming from Barack.
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Let me get this straight... so it's the choice of words for you? "Everything" surely means obliteration if it gets to that -"if Iran directly threatenes Israel", which I've addressed here before, but you just like the pretty talk, even though it means the same thing. But it's okay now that it is coming from Barack.
I see clearly now why our oligarchs abandoned Hillary and went with Obama. Hillary as VP is an insurance policy in case Barack gets out of line like JFK and Nixon did. He will be (and has been) kept in check by her.
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Let me get this straight... so it's the choice of words for you? "Everything" surely means obliteration if it gets to that -"if Iran directly threatenes Israel", which I've addressed here before, but you just like the pretty talk, even though it means the same thing. But it's okay now that it is coming from Barack.
Awe, has someone pissed in your cheerios since Obama took the nomination?
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the policys around nuclear weapons need to be explicit - no hedgeing, no implications.
It's too dangerous to rely on " understandings"
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Let me get this straight... so it's the choice of words for you? "Everything" surely means obliteration if it gets to that -"if Iran directly threatenes Israel", which I've addressed here before, but you just like the pretty talk, even though it means the same thing. But it's okay now that it is coming from Barack.
lemme check the weapons stock for non-obliterating nukes...
hmm.. fresh out.
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Let me get this straight... so it's the choice of words for you? "Everything" surely means obliteration if it gets to that -"if Iran directly threatenes Israel", which I've addressed here before, but you just like the pretty talk, even though it means the same thing. But it's okay now that it is coming from Barack.
Additionally, Obama isn't merely talking about what would happen if Iran used nuclear weapons. He's actually talking about preventing them from obtaining nuclear weapons. He didn't actually say "war", leaving it open to interpretation, but there is no doubt how the Iranians will interpret it.
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I look forward to the day that our foreign policy is formulated within the White House and not 6000 miles away in Tel Aviv.
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Additionally, Obama isn't merely talking about what would happen if Iran used nuclear weapons. He's actually talking about preventing them from obtaining nuclear weapons. He didn't actually say "war", leaving it open to interpretation, but there is no doubt how the Iranians will interpret it.
That's right, Kana, exactly my point.
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I look forward to the day that our foreign policy is formulated within the White House and not 6000 miles away in Tel Aviv.
That's anti-Semitic.
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lemme check the weapons stock for non-obliterating nukes...
hmm.. fresh out.
Wrong. There are small tactical nuclear weapons. Developed during the Cold War in case of a massive Soviet troop invasion from Eastern Europe. Limited yield, limited devastation.
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