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Old 06-08-2008, 09:34 AM   #231 (permalink)
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And democrats are very openminded....it's those demrepugs who aren't.
Don't these idiots know that to reject Obama is to reject Hillary and all that she stands for? They've stabbed their idol right in the back..bunch of fools.
YEP!!!!!!!

I am hoping that mcbush himself will succeed were our arguments have failed........... In convincing them that he is as bad, if not worse than bush2..........
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I'm sure I'm going over the line here, but it all boils down to race and religion. These posters on the forum Serum refers to, don't like Obama because of his skin color and they think he's a Muslim..a fanatical one at that! They're no better than blogging skinheads.

That's how you can tell a true dem from a demrepug..a real democrat truly cares about the democratic party.
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I'm sure I'm going over the line here, but it all boils down to race and religion. These posters on the forum Serum posted, don't like Obama because of his skin color and they think he's a Muslim..a fanatical one at that! They're no better than blogging skinheads.

That's how you can tell a true dem from a demrepug..a real democrat truly cares about the democratic party.
Yep.......... IMO those idiots are lost already anywayZ & not worth bothering w/.......... If honest john doesn't turn their stomaches they can pump out their chests in pride that they voted for the whitest guy...

What I find hope in is the dumb, simplistic nature of such arguments... Most sheepl are capable of @ least some reason...... Hey & perhaps some will bump their heads & get some sense knocked into them...

Maybe it is just me but saying things like the man is a Muslim while condemning him for attending a wacky Christian church for 20 years is just nuts...... But hey I could be just being optimistic here....... Not something I am often accused of........lol
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Yep.......... IMO those idiots are lost already anywayZ & not worth bothering w/.......... If honest john doesn't turn their stomaches they can pump out their chests in pride that they voted for the whitest guy...

What I find hope in is the dumb, simplistic nature of such arguments... Most sheepl are capable of @ least some reason...... Hey & perhaps some will bump their heads & get some sense knocked into them...

Maybe it is just me but saying things like the man is a Muslim while condemning him for attending a wacky Christian church for 20 years is just nuts...... But hey I could be just being optimistic here....... Not something I am often accused of........lol
I like your optimism.
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Please stop the myth that America is Free, and a Democracy- Rich rule is not a People of or for the People- it is for the 1% who can afford to live the Dream, not working the nightmare.
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Yep.......... IMO those idiots are lost already anywayZ & not worth bothering w/.......... If honest john doesn't turn their stomaches they can pump out their chests in pride that they voted for the whitest guy...

What I find hope in is the dumb, simplistic nature of such arguments... Most sheepl are capable of @ least some reason...... Hey & perhaps some will bump their heads & get some sense knocked into them...

Maybe it is just me but saying things like the man is a Muslim while condemning him for attending a wacky Christian church for 20 years is just nuts...... But hey I could be just being optimistic here....... Not something I am often accused of........lol
Yes!! You are correct. But........only about 10% or less of all voters are political junkies! The rest are people who are effected by the chatter.

We have to make sure that inside the chatter there are FACTS and rational thoughts, arguments that provide cover/strength for the positions of those who are the "dissenting" views in their communities.

Most people read their local papers more than national papers and they tend to trust them more so it is important to work through them.

AND---there are a LOT of voters out there (seems like more men than women to me) who want and NEED to EXCHANGE thoughts with others to make up their minds.

The work is cut out for us!
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Please stop the myth that America is Free, and a Democracy- Rich rule is not a People of or for the People- it is for the 1% who can afford to live the Dream, not working the nightmare.
Come on now........... You're just a whinnier!!!!!!!!

Why I have half a mind to email bush2 right now & have him force a couple million down your throat.......... "THere, now you can see how it is to walk the tuff street lil georgie had to walk....... "

Remember you should never criticize a man till you had to carry around his portfolio........

Do you realize the sacrifices this man has made??? Hell just last month he gave up golf in sympathy of all those "others" making sacrifices for their country..........

My gawD!!!!!! are you ppl never satisfied.... What more can a man give but his golf game..........

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Please stop the myth that America is Free, and a Democracy- Rich rule is not a People of or for the People- it is for the 1% who can afford to live the Dream, not working the nightmare.
American citizens are empowered. That's the difference.

A true democracy was never the intention, btw. John Adams was very specifically against it, fearing the mob/townhall mentality would freeze the government's ability to do anything at all. That's why we have a representative government. The trick is to keep the representation as reflective of the citizens and not special interests.

Ban parties, limit campaign finance, alter advertisement rules, and get the 53% of eligible voters who don't vote involved and you might just get the government you wish for.

Until then, let the corporations give you your 'two' choices.
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How the hell are ya, Mentor?
Quite well, actually. Tired right now after a weekend in the wilderness. Good to see you!
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Quite well, actually. Tired right now after a weekend in the wilderness. Good to see you!
Where did you go...... You live in the wilderness........LOL

Nice day not to breezy.............. You hike???
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