Obama's foreign policy - Page 2

VKMHVM2 · 06-06-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisbb

you got what VK missed. crimes against humanity and breeding terrorists never get a free pass

I didn't miss anything. We accept the lesser of evils for presidents, so why can't we also accept the lesser of evils for foreign policy? I'll take an American imperialist like Zbig over an Israel-first neocon any day of the week.

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McCain Is Alone on Russia
19 May 2008

By Edward Lozansky

"At a recent celebration in honor of former U.S. National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, speaker after speaker stood up to say that none of the major security problems faced by the United States and the rest of the world could have been solved without cooperation from Russia. Even Brzezinski himself, who considers Russia to be little more than an evil genius, echoed this sentiment. Does McCain believe that all of them are wrong?

We may never know. Neither McCain nor his top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheuneman, have confirmed or declined my invitation to speak at the forum, even though the meeting hall is right next door to McCain's office in the Hart Senate Office Building."

http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/1016/42/362856.htm

chrisbb · 06-07-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VKMHVM2

I didn't miss anything. We accept the lesser of evils for presidents, so why can't we also accept the lesser of evils for foreign policy? I'll take an American imperialist like Zbig over an Israel-first neocon any day of the week.

every single president this past century was pro-Israel. and there is nothing wrong with that. they were also, pro-Canada, pro-Britain, pro-Luxembourg. what you fail to see is that there is no difference between the 2 parties; never has been. they are two sides of the same coin. is it a coincidence that Obama has multiple members of the Trilateral Commission on his side? he has been hand-picked by the Trilaterals and the Bilderberg group, just like all the presidents in recent years. this should alarm every American.

VKMHVM2 · 06-07-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisbb

every single president this past century was pro-Israel. and there is nothing wrong with that. they were also, pro-Canada, pro-Britain, pro-Luxembourg. what you fail to see is that there is no difference between the 2 parties; never has been. they are two sides of the same coin. is it a coincidence that Obama has multiple members of the Trilateral Commission on his side? he has been hand-picked by the Trilaterals and the Bilderberg group, just like all the presidents in recent years. this should alarm every American.

Americans haven't picked their presidents in a long time. It doesn't seem to bother them. It looks like it's time for them to vote for the Rockefeller faction over the Rothschild faction. Again, it is the lesser of the two evils.

BillCosby · 06-07-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisbb

every single president this past century was pro-Israel. and there is nothing wrong with that. they were also, pro-Canada, pro-Britain, pro-Luxembourg. what you fail to see is that there is no difference between the 2 parties; never has been. they are two sides of the same coin. is it a coincidence that Obama has multiple members of the Trilateral Commission on his side? he has been hand-picked by the Trilaterals and the Bilderberg group, just like all the presidents in recent years. this should alarm every American.

No there not... They are two fingers on the same hand.......

lol...............

Well said........... How the "foreigners" get handled is not up for argument. NO disagreement..........

chrisbb · 06-07-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VKMHVM2

Americans haven't picked their presidents in a long time. It doesn't seem to bother them. It looks like it's time for them to vote for the Rockefeller faction over the Rothschild faction. Again, it is the lesser of the two evils.

it's not though. there is no "lesser". they are the same damn thing. Rockeller got his buddy Zbiginew to start up the Trilateral Commission. they are not an innocent gentlemen's club. the Rockefeller family is one of the most dangerous in the history of America

VKMHVM2 · 06-07-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisbb

it's not though. there is no "lesser". they are the same damn thing. Rockeller got his buddy Zbiginew to start up the Trilateral Commission. they are not an innocent gentlemen's club. the Rockefeller family is one of the most dangerous in the history of America

What can you do? Vote for one of the puppets or don't vote at all. Voting for an unorganized third party with no mainstream media support is not going to make a difference. Ron Paul proved that even using one of the main parties and gaining strong grassroots support does not make a difference if you do not have the support of the controlled media.

chrisbb · 06-07-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by VKMHVM2

What can you do? Vote for one of the puppets or don't vote at all. Voting for an unorganized third party with no mainstream media support is not going to make a difference.

that is exactly what these groups want you to believe. you have to at least try. one vote doesnt mean much but if everyone was aware that a small group of people are in control, perhaps something could be done about it

VKMHVM2 · 06-07-2008, 05:32 PM

As long as the majority of the people get their news from TV, the status quo won't change. There will be major changes to the Internet in the near future that will marginalize the alternative media, anyway. The net is destined to become a multi-tiered pay service.

BillCosby · 06-07-2008, 05:52 PM

LOL.............. RIght now there is a National Conference for Media Reform going on trying to address just that........

To roll the clock back before all the consolidation............

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