Obama's foreign policy

chrisbb · 06-05-2008, 07:01 PM

is Zbigniew Brzezinski still foreign policy adviser for Obama?

VKMHVM2 · 06-05-2008, 07:35 PM

I hope so.

Why is the US press silent on Brzezinski’s warnings of war against Iran?

chrisbb · 06-05-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VKMHVM2

I hope so.

if he is i would hope people vote for an independant candidate.

Brzezinski is a butcher, no better than Kissinger. i am surprised you would like him, considering his role in the war against Russia

VKMHVM2 · 06-05-2008, 07:54 PM

Brzezinski is one of the fiercest critics of the neocons in DC.

Why is the US press silent on Brzezinski’s warnings of war against Iran?

Most significant and disturbing was Brzezinski’s suggestion that the Bush administration might manufacture a pretext to justify a military attack on Iran. Presenting what he called a “plausible scenario for a military collision with Iraq,” Brzezinski laid out the following series of events: “Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks, followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure, then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran, culminating in, quote/unquote, ‘defensive’ US military action against Iran...” [Emphasis added].

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Jonesy · 06-05-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VKMHVM2

Brzezinski is one of the fiercest critics of the neocons in DC.

Why is the US press silent on Brzezinski’s warnings of war against Iran?

Most significant and disturbing was Brzezinski’s suggestion that the Bush administration might manufacture a pretext to justify a military attack on Iran. Presenting what he called a “plausible scenario for a military collision with Iraq,” Brzezinski laid out the following series of events: “Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks, followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure, then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran, culminating in, quote/unquote, ‘defensive’ US military action against Iran...” [Emphasis added].

Beltway Insiders Versus Neo-Cons: Clash of the Elites

Well, you know the saying... the best defense is a good defense. Or is it, defenses win championships? Or is it defense != offense?

CosmicRocker · 06-05-2008, 10:20 PM

I'm still waiting on Obama to settle on one ! LOL

Jonesy · 06-05-2008, 10:47 PM

In a turtle-shell defense, whoever is inside the shell can continue farming resources while the attackers waste their resources limply assaulting an impenetrable shell.

A good defense consists of many layers; the turtle-shell being only one.

mudwhistle · 06-06-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisbb

is Zbigniew Brzezinski still foreign policy adviser for Obama?

Yes. But it doesn't matter because Obama represents change.

ibex · 06-06-2008, 08:07 AM

While I admire Brezezinski's stinging and well deserved criticism of the Bush administration's foreign policy blunders, particularly the Iraq war, let's not forget he's the author of a policy that armed and trained the Afghan Arabs, Islamic radicals who migrated to Afghanistan in the wake of the Soviet invasion late in 1979. Many in their ranks, including Osama bin Laden later evolved into Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Like a lot of Cold War offensives by the West, this policy formulated under the Carter administration and then accelerated under Reagan had unintended and disatrous consequences.

chrisbb · 06-06-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ibex

While I admire Brezezinski's stinging and well deserved criticism of the Bush administration's foreign policy blunders, particularly the Iraq war, let's not forget he's the author of a policy that armed and trained the Afghan Arabs, Islamic radicals who migrated to Afghanistan in the wake of the Soviet invasion late in 1979. Many in their ranks, including Osama bin Laden later evolved into Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Like a lot of Cold War offensives by the West, this policy formulated under the Carter administration and then accelerated under Reagan had unintended and disatrous consequences.

you got what VK missed. crimes against humanity and breeding terrorists never get a free pass

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VKMHVM2 Vote Obama or McCain! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,838 My Mood: Thanks: 92 Thanked 69 Times in 53 Posts	I hope so. Why is the US press silent on Brzezinski’s warnings of war against Iran? __________________ It's All Here! Dr. Albert Pastore: An Independent Investigation of 9-11 and the War on Terrorism "Missing Links" - the 911 film THEY do NOT want you to see! Last edited by VKMHVM2; 06-05-2008 at 07:46 PM.
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VKMHVM2 Vote Obama or McCain! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,838 My Mood: Thanks: 92 Thanked 69 Times in 53 Posts	Brzezinski is one of the fiercest critics of the neocons in DC. Why is the US press silent on Brzezinski’s warnings of war against Iran? Most significant and disturbing was Brzezinski’s suggestion that the Bush administration might manufacture a pretext to justify a military attack on Iran. Presenting what he called a “plausible scenario for a military collision with Iraq,” Brzezinski laid out the following series of events: “Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks, followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure, then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran, culminating in, quote/unquote, ‘defensive’ US military action against Iran...” [Emphasis added]. Beltway Insiders Versus Neo-Cons: Clash of the Elites __________________ It's All Here! Dr. Albert Pastore: An Independent Investigation of 9-11 and the War on Terrorism "Missing Links" - the 911 film THEY do NOT want you to see! Last edited by VKMHVM2; 06-05-2008 at 07:59 PM.
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CosmicRocker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: lost in a lost world Posts: 7,964 My Mood: Thanks: 142 Thanked 105 Times in 84 Posts	I'm still waiting on Obama to settle on one ! LOL __________________ Traveling Wilburys (l to r) Bob Dylan, Jeff Lynne, Tom Petty, George Harrison, Roy Orbison ``````````````````````````````````````` sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon going to the candidates debate Laugh about it, shout about it when you got to choose every way you look at it you lose Mrs. Robinson - Simon and Garfunkle
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Jonesy Truth Lion Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,554 Thanks: 10 Thanked 32 Times in 23 Posts	In a turtle-shell defense, whoever is inside the shell can continue farming resources while the attackers waste their resources limply assaulting an impenetrable shell. A good defense consists of many layers; the turtle-shell being only one.
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ibex Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,072 My Mood: Thanks: 180 Thanked 189 Times in 128 Posts	While I admire Brezezinski's stinging and well deserved criticism of the Bush administration's foreign policy blunders, particularly the Iraq war, let's not forget he's the author of a policy that armed and trained the Afghan Arabs, Islamic radicals who migrated to Afghanistan in the wake of the Soviet invasion late in 1979. Many in their ranks, including Osama bin Laden later evolved into Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Like a lot of Cold War offensives by the West, this policy formulated under the Carter administration and then accelerated under Reagan had unintended and disatrous consequences.
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