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Old 06-08-2008, 01:24 AM   #41 (permalink)
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We need to balance out Obama's extreme leftist policies with some republican good sense. Smaller government, reduced spending, and making tax cuts permanent. Also, and this is a biggie, not punishing business by seizing their profits.

I've only gotten four posts into this thread and I have to stop before I say F-You.

Republican good sense? The kind that got us to where we are today?
Since 2000 we've seen this country take a nose dive, and there were Republicans at the wheel every minute at every turn.


Obama is going kick ass and get this country in shape, he doesn't need some god damn babysitter from the old guard sitting behind him, he needs someone just like him. Do you think the new kid on the block drummed up all of the millions of supporters because he's the same old thing? You still don't get it.

You act as if since we're getting Obama as President we have to give something up first.


Too late. F-You.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:34 AM   #42 (permalink)
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You don't like my ideas, so what would you suggest? Tax increases for all the working folks?

Of course. What else.

If Republicans like tax cuts for rich folks, then the Dems MUST be in favor of tax increases for all the working folks. Goes without saying.




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Old 06-08-2008, 01:40 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I've only gotten four posts into this thread and I have to stop before I say F-You.

Republican good sense? The kind that got us to where we are today?
Since 2000 we've seen this country take a nose dive, and there were Republicans at the wheel every minute at every turn.


Obama is going kick ass and get this country in shape, he doesn't need some god damn babysitter from the old guard sitting behind him, he needs someone just like him. Do you think the new kid on the block drummed up all of the millions of supporters because he's the same old thing? You still don't get it.

You act as if since we're getting Obama as President we have to give something up first.


Too late. F-You.
I'll say! This is the damndest thread I have ever read! Why in the hell would anyone ever consider more of the same? Have you all bumped your heads?
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I'm not sure Hagel would be a good idea, because Hagel voted against sound environmental legislation 95% of the time.
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We need to balance out Obama's extreme leftist policies with some republican good sense. Smaller government, reduced spending, and making tax cuts permanent. Also, and this is a biggie, not punishing business by seizing their profits.
He's neither extreme, nor a leftist. In fact he's more conservative than Hillary in most respects. Why don't you actually LOOK at his stance on issues instead of the Faux talking points?
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He's neither extreme, nor a leftist. In fact he's more conservative than Hillary in most respects. Why don't you actually LOOK at his stance on issues instead of the Faux talking points?
that's much more effort than many people are willing to take on...it's far easier to listen to talking points and take them as gospel rather than do a little research to see what's really what...like the inexperience argument for example, someone said it, someone repeated it, someone thought "oh, we can just perpetuate that and half of everyone will believe it even though it isn't true" and so it went on and on and on...
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He's neither extreme, nor a leftist. In fact he's more conservative than Hillary in most respects. Why don't you actually LOOK at his stance on issues instead of the Faux talking points?
Connies thinking for themselves? Oh you have to high expectations Insipid.


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I'm not sure Hagel would be a good idea, because Hagel voted against sound environmental legislation 95% of the time.
Refer to my post that he's Lieberman of the right, in that he supports everything else the party does in lockstep, but opposes their viewpoint on the war. I'm sure I can sneak in some anti-Semitic slur now with everyone getting back to hating Israel again, but since Obama needs to kiss their ass a bit, I better not.
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I like the cartoon.

Nader would be good, but the poor guy is getting so old...

Hey, any advice for painting a wall with a corgi underfoot? I can't put her outside because it's 90 degrees.

Nader is nothing but a joke.

He only pops up around election time.
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He's neither extreme, nor a leftist. In fact he's more conservative than Hillary in most respects. Why don't you actually LOOK at his stance on issues instead of the Faux talking points?
i'm curious.
how is Obama more conservative than Hillary?
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I'd vote for Mr. Obama IF he selects a republican to run as his Vice President. I read an op ed in the paper yesterday that got me thinking about it. Wouldn't that be a marvelous way of demonstrating that bipartisianism CAN work in Washington DC?
Absolutely NOT.

I will PROUDLY vote for Obama. He will bring competence, and I hope, transparency back to the white house.

He was certainly transparent with his medical records; far more so than mcCain.

Republicans in the cabinet maybe, but I don't want any republican a heartbeat away from a democratic president.

I have no idea who is on the short list for VP, but, personally, I like Jim Webb. Whomever Obama chooses will be fine with me.


My belief is that his biggest problem during this election is going to be Rev. Wright, and I've done some thinking as to how to defuse that issue.

My best advice would be to use only McCain's OWN words and votes against him; there are plenty of examples of him disagreeing with himself.

Maybe we can make words spoken by other people "out of bounds".

I was a Hillary supporter, but it was always by a very slight margin. both of these people have stated the same basic goals for our nation, and he is absolutely correct when he said in his victory speech that achieving these goals will require her continuing to work to do so.

Hillary was absolutely right when she said we can't win by looking back.

Personally speaking, the Hillary supporters I know who are angry aren't angry at obama. Some are angry at his supporters. Some are angry at the media.

Ancient history already.

In spite of what the media likes to speculate, Obama and Hillary are united in getting Obama elected. It's time for her supporters to embrace him, and his supporters to graciously welcome them.

I know some people who won't vote for him because of his color. I hope he can overcome this.

I don't know anyone who's ever told me they don't think he's competent.

Aside from the court nominations, etc, that are at stake in this election, the democratic party will have an opportunity to show how much better off we will all be if the dems are in control of the White House and the Congress, compared to the recent history of the republicans being in control.

Many people have posted over the years that we'd like to see our politicians put their country above their party. Now is the time for the voters to put their country above their primary driven differences and stand behind our nominee.

For the Hillary supporters: There is no shame in losing to this man. She certainly moved, as well as cracked, that glass ceiling.

I think she made a very wise decision in not making her speech until Saturday. We are an impatient nation, and we want everything NOW.

Those of us who remember the number of really angry Gore supporters in 2000 when he didn't fight further after the Supreme Court ruling (although I don't know where you'd take the fight), acknowledge that it was a good idea to let the facts of the math, and finality of it set in. Tuesday was Obama's night. Saturday was her day, and also Obama's.

I've often said it takes a village to be a president, and the president is, ultimately, the sum of that village. Bush surrounded himself with cronies.

Does anyone here doubt that Obama will appoint highly qualified people to the positions in that village? That he's not afraid to listen to dissenting opinions?
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