campaign strategy - Page 4

jdanton · 06-09-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by slowhand

I wouldnt put that past them for a minute

Me neither. That's why they need to be prepared.

HarperLee · 06-09-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jdanton

These were undoubtedly cherry picked, but in a sound bite society, that can be enough.

If you remember back 4 years, I think Kerry expected the media to tell the public the swift boat ads weren't true. The media didn't.

It may well be that, because it came up so much in the primary that it will be viewed as "old news" in the general.

Make no mistake that the voters will be blasted with Obama not holding his hand on his heart in that photo, Rev. Wright, the photo of him in muslim garb, etc...

the campaign will make a mistake if they expect the media to defend him against doctored or dishonest photos, etc.

I get at least one email a week telling me something about Obama, or with a photo of him (most recently the one where he's holding the phone backwards), and I simply respond with.

"I don't think this true. Do you?"

If it's one I KNOW isn't true: "This is not true."

Interesting that you bring up Kerry's failure to react immediately to the Swift Boat ads. Obama gave a long speech about race and Reverend Wright on March 18. You didn't watch it.

Obama did win the nomination despite your obsession with Jeremiah Wright.

And, as we have point out before, it says more about you that you receive anti-Obama emails than it does about the success of the Obama campaign.

jdanton · 06-09-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HarperLee

Will you admit that you were wrong to say that he was lying when he said that he would change the way Washington does business? Are you able to comprehend that banning PAC and
lobbyist money will change the way Washington does business?

Almost every poster at the other board reacted to this post the same way I did. Are you asking all of them to put you on Ignore?

You have been accused of not answering questions. You come and start new threads and never respond to questions.

Why are you worrying about Jeremiah Wright when the RNC is using Hillary Clinton's Obama slimes in their general election ads?

Yes. He cannot change the way Washington does business. He can change the way his campaign does business, and he can change the way the White House does business, if elected.

He cannot change the way Congress does business, as that's entirely up to Congress, which, you may recall, is a separate branch of our government.

I didn't ask you to put my on ignore. Just reminded you that you have that option if my posts get you so upset.

The changes I believe he WILL make: competence, transparency, and honesty in the White House. Appointments of QUALIFIED people.

Contrary to what you like to believe, I have been critical of both these candidates over the campaign. Hillary really pissed me off with the sniper fire story.

I had also always shown a stated SLIGHT preference for Hillary, as I gave her some points for having been first lady. I am not bitter or angry that Obama won the nomination.

I would point out to you that HE, in his victory speech, pointed out that her staying in the race helped him become a better campaigner.

Was he lying then? I don't think so.

Many have posted here that her staying in might contribute to him losing in November. On the other hand, according to his own words, it will help him win in November.

This man was extremely gracious in his victory. Pity you cannot follow his lead.

jdanton · 06-09-2008, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HarperLee

Interesting that you bring up Kerry's failure to react immediately to the Swift Boat ads. Obama gave a long speech about race and Reverend Wright on March 18. You didn't watch it.

Obama did win the nomination despite your obsession with Jeremiah Wright.

And, as we have point out before, it says more about you that you receive anti-Obama emails than it does about the success of the Obama campaign.

I most certainly did watch it. It will come back to haunt him. He said in that speech that he could no more disown Wright than he could disown his grandmother. Then he disowned Wright.

I have lived through the years where I was told that blacks couldn't play quarterback. Then we found they could. Then we were told they couldn't coach. Now we see they can.

I did notice Obama won the nomination in spite of my voting for Hillary, which was about all the impact available to me.

If you were to go back and read my early posts, I have always said that I would support either of them as the nominee; their voting records and priorities are virtually identical.

He has my full support, as I said months ago he would have. Past that, what would you want from me?

If it makes you feel better to gloat, please do so. Seems kind of childish, though.

I almost feel sorry for you, as I don't think you've any idea the kind of shit that is going to be thrown at Obama during the general election.

Anyone who thinks this primary was "nasty" is in for a rude awakening.

HarperLee · 06-09-2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jdanton

Yes. He cannot change the way Washington does business. He can change the way his campaign does business, and he can change the way the White House does business, if elected.

He cannot change the way Congress does business, as that's entirely up to Congress, which, you may recall, is a separate branch of our government.

I didn't ask you to put my on ignore. Just reminded you that you have that option if my posts get you so upset.

The changes I believe he WILL make: competence, transparency, and honesty in the White House. Appointments of QUALIFIED people.

Contrary to what you like to believe, I have been critical of both these candidates over the campaign. Hillary really pissed me off with the sniper fire story.

I had also always shown a stated SLIGHT preference for Hillary, as I gave her some points for having been first lady. I am not bitter or angry that Obama won the nomination.

I would point out to you that HE, in his victory speech, pointed out that her staying in the race helped him become a better campaigner.

Was he lying then? I don't think so.

Many have posted here that her staying in might contribute to him losing in November. On the other hand, according to his own words, it will help him win in November.

This man was extremely gracious in his victory. Pity you cannot follow his lead.

What does what Obama said in his victory speech have to do with anything?

You are simple-mindedly creating a straw man because you are stubborn and will never admit you were wrong about anything.

Not accepting PAC money and lobbyist money will change the way Washington does business. You cleverly (in your own mind) substituted the word "Congress", which is not what Obama said.
Just last week you were saying that Obama was lying when he said that he would change the way D.C. does business.

You also defended Hillary's indefensible assassination remark, saying that she just meant there could be an assassination, a plane crash, an automobile accident. I am not alone in suspecting that you are still hoping for one of the above.

And it is disingenuous for you to single me out as not being gracious when you seem to have no fan club at the other board either.

BillCosby · 06-09-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jdanton

It doesn't bother me, but there are people it does bother. To ignore that is simply being in a state of denial.

Planning ahead is always good strategy, no.

I think he made a brilliant move in banning pac and lobbyist money, and challenging McCain to do the same.

You do know you can put me on ignore.

Well then it is good that this came about before rather than after the GE.............

Yea I agree it was a great idea to pull the "moral high ground" out fro under the herO of Hanoi........ The worst part, @ least for him, is he will not be able to have those "working lunches" w/ some of his favorite leeches & lobbyist........

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