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Old 07-17-2008, 02:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Since WHEN are Progressives and Reformists okay with this?
Oh mercy. When has ONE OF THOSE been elected president?
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Oh mercy. When has ONE OF THOSE been elected president?
I thought America was fired up for Change.
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I think you are exactly right. And if they can't take two minutes to educate themselves on the basics then it's their own loss. Ignorance isn't always bliss, for many it makes them look pretty stupid and I don't just mean politics.
The reason they can't take two minutes to educate themselves is because, I swear to that great God, they think they know everything! My mom is still living on the farm in such a place. She's no longer in the best of health, but other family members and neighbors are so damn stubborn and self righteous, they won't listen to anyone or anything.

It's frustrating that there are such closed minded people around. And believe me, they do vote.
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Christians rise above such smallness at the end of the day. God wants Obama in the White House. And so does Eman.

So how can he lose with THAT team?
Not all of them will, but I agree that Mr. Obama will win with the votes of others. And if it is God's will, then so be it.
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I thought America was fired up for Change.
We are and we're going to get it. The freepers don't want change, they think the last 8 years have been just peachy and would like to have the dust farter keep it going.

In Obama's own words he said that if a president achieves at least one or two major agenda items a year he is doing well. I don't care how you spin it, that is realistic. I think Bush is the ultimate scum and fucked us up beyond what any other president has. However, he is only responsible for so much, some things like the mortgage crisis are cyclical and will happen anyway and there are only so many things politics can be accountable for.
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He is now a Christian, having been baptized in the early 1990s at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. But rumors about Obama's religion persist. In the new NEWSWEEK Poll, 12 percent of voters incorrectly believe he's Muslim; more than a quarter believe he was raised in a Muslim home.
Think it would help if he chose Pat Robertson as his running mate?
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I thought America was fired up for Change.
That was during the primaries. America just want to be the same selfish prosperous consuming nation it always has been.

"Church and cheap gas."

Eman's theme for Obama.
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I think you are exactly right. And if they can't take two minutes to educate themselves on the basics then it's their own loss. Ignorance isn't always bliss, for many it makes them look pretty stupid and I don't just mean politics.
Says a man who owns a message board and spends inordinate time online. You'd be surprised how many people have no internet familiarity, how many people go onto a computer only for email...or not at all.

Newsprint? TV? RADIO?

The problem is not that people won't take two minutes to educate themselves, it's that NO AMOUNT OF TIME clarifies WHO IS LYING.

Lying is rampant. Everyone know it. But, somehow, people are Ignorant if they don't take a man whose positions are changing quicker than dirty diapers at his word.
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That was during the primaries. America just want to be the same selfish prosperous consuming nation it always has been.

"Church and cheap gas."

Eman's theme for Obama.
LMAO!

Rope people into religion by giving them cheap gas. Well, that's one way to get them into the pughs I guess. Catchy!
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We are and we're going to get it. The freepers don't want change, they think the last 8 years have been just peachy and would like to have the dust farter keep it going.

In Obama's own words he said that if a president achieves at least one or two major agenda items a year he is doing well. I don't care how you spin it, that is realistic. I think Bush is the ultimate scum and fucked us up beyond what any other president has. However, he is only responsible for so much, some things like the mortgage crisis are cyclical and will happen anyway and there are only so many things politics can be accountable for.
Okay. So there are some bumps in the road with Bush at the END of his second term. You NEVER give him credit for his biggest achievement: KEEPING US SAFE FOR THE PAST 7 YEARS.

Come on Eric.
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