RK77

If you are praying Mark then on blind faith take the word of the bible that if "two or more come together in the name of Jesus--he will be there" and it is implied that your prayers will be answered.

When my mom underwent surgery 3 years ago with a less than 5% chance of survival I set up in room prayers AND I had all her friends stop what they were doing at 8PM one night and come together to pray for her.

Her condition DRAMATICALLY improved by midnight that night. She developed NONE of the complications of the surgery that almost every patient I have EVER seen undergo it has developed --- and I have NEVER seen anyone as fragile as mom undergo the surgery.

Stand on the word, Mark---don't worry about not believing---God knows that. Take the chance and go for the most power you can. It can't hurt.

MarkMiller

I will do that.

Perhaps....I will even attend church service with my Father. While I am not a Chatholic anymore....I am sure he wouldn't mind.

Thank you.

Mark Miller

CosmicRocker

Mark: I say this to you as a friend.
I can't pretend to understand the raw pain you are going thru.
I lost my father faitly recently in a long bout with diabetes.

Most of us older folks, and even younger folks have been touched by deaths in the family, or close friends.

Please find the peace that all of us wish for you as fellow humans that are prey to the human condition.

Noone wishes you ill - if anyone does, then that is their karma they must bear , as hatred weighs down the soul.

Please know you have friends who care, and wish you mom as little suffering as possible, and may she reach enlightenment as soon as possible or heaven, or whatever is in store for all good people.

Have peace of mind when you can; avoid the conflicts and snares that reach out to rob you of that peace.

May all blessings be with you, and your family.

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MarkMiller

Yes it was. I apologise for my outburst.

That was placing something unfairly on Obama....not you.

I thank you for your kind words.

Please look to your own personal attacks on me to better understand those that I place on you.
I can only assume (and we all know about assuming) that you bring up Mccain as he is the opponent of Obama.....but instead of telling me and the members of this site what is wrong with McCain....when I do not menten him.....I truely beg you to tell us what is right about Obama. This not about what is wrong with either candidate....it's about what can be done when Obama becomes President.

Yes....on HBO's site i have begun a thread where I say McCain has won because of Biden.(I really don't like Biden....if you look a little or have a good memory, I have mentioned that on other threads here) But I have not begun to support the man (McCain) and I never will. I am pretty sure i will be voting for Obama.

MarkMiller

anhailla

That was really nice of you RK, really...

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See, now I do make a point of distinguishing religion and spirituality....

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MarkMiller

Oh......Anhailla........it was far more than that. It truely was.

RK77

Mark---as difficult it is for those who have fought listening to what Obama is saying to understand----Obama is NOT claiming that HE will bring any change for us! He is claiming that he will bring about change WITH us!

He is not talking about "being our voices" in Washington---he is talking about opening doors so that the voices of the people can be heard.

There is a good deal of frustration felt by those of us who are supporting Obama when the questions that are being raised reflect so clearly that others still don't "get" it. And it is important that people "get" it because for every person who plans to sit on their ass while we move forward (and I don't mean to imply that you will) we have to figure out how to drag that dead weight as we move forward.

As it pertains to healthcare---Obama has made it MORE than clear that there is NO change that we can make in 4 or 8 years to get us to where we ultimately need to be.

Our heads are more or less on backward when it comes to healthcare and the VERY FIRST thing that we need to do is start thinking about healthcare backwards.

What is being debated presently---and what is at the core of all debates right now is health care FINANCE strategies!

Have you heard ANYONE besides Obama even suggest that they recognize that the ACTUAL CARE being delivered is approaching LETHAL?

Unfortunately, even though you KNOW from first hand experience that the care out there for your family members SUCK---you have still entered this convo with a focus on "who should pay".

The FACT is that no matter WHO pays for it---your mother has a disease that should NOT be killing her. And---you should be able to hire people to take care of her---in her home---with her husband---without worrying if that person will be looking for her car keys instead of caring for her.

BUT more importantly---there is collectively about 1 billion dollars that was paid out in salary to just the CEO's of companies that should have been spending the last decade figuring out how to save your mom's life!!!

The focus of all of medicine has shifted from seeking cures to how to make the most money possible off our illness before we die.

Last year Dr. A. P. John's died. He was a researcher who dedicated his entire life to discovering what would shut a tumor down.

My godfather and my father were both diagnosed with cancer about a year and a half before my dad died. My godfather had a very aggressive retroperitoneal cancer and my dad a pretty huge lung mass.

The University of Michigan refused my dad any therapy at all. They gave him 3 months to live. I would not accept that answer---but there was not central source to find anything else to do.

About a month before I lost my Godfather---and despite putting in 12-14 hour days researching EVERYTHING the world had to offer in terms of cancer--I ran across The AP Johns institute. I began researching his theories ---and unfortunately lost my Godfather before I could get through it all.

But I put my dad on the CAAT therapy that Dr. John's designed after we tried radiation therapy which did not stop the tumor. The tumor was entirely shut down. My dad lived for a year and a half and did not die from the cancer--- it had already died and though some of the mass remained his body was slowly dissolving it.

My point is---there are answers---more than you would think any decent field of scientists would allow to exist without telling everyone---and our system (for very complex reasons) will not let science move forward if they cannot figure out how to profit!

NONE of this will change unless and until we the people become the first (maybe even the ONLY) priority of government.

We cannot even allow ourselves to keep thinking of things in terms of WHO will make things happen for us ----we have to start asking --- HOW can WE make the changes we want happen---and squash all politicians who would a) interfere with our momentum or b) lull us back into infantcy by telling us they will spoon feed us.

God knows---if doors had been opened to the government for LGBT communities as HIV began to infuse the nation---it may have been stopped! Massive efforts were made---you know it and I do as well----but groups were banging their heads against brick walls while the government kept patting backs and promising actions.

If Obama wins and shuts us out---then that will be his fault. If Obama wins and opens the doors he suggests he can---making government more transparent---giving us ways to monitor government-----shutting out big money in our elections making us the critical source of financing for the politicians---then if changes don't happen it will be because people sat on their hands and waited for someone to MAKE those things happen for them.

While everyone likes to make fun of Obama's inspiring people---the INSPIRATION to come together and seek new solutions is CRITICAL to we the people being "fired up" enough to step back up to the plate and take the reins of the nation back.

The inspiration and energy and enthusiasm and participation of the public IS the foundation for all other change........

So you tell me-----What changes will you be willing to work for to make things different when you need the healthcare you are seeing absent now?

anhailla

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