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Old 08-26-2008, 02:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Gotta love that....can't diss the Clintons for dissing Obama unless you want to burn the bridges towards unity

Spot the hyprocrisy there.
Oh man, so thick you can cut it with a knife. Every last post from CR is an Obama diss I have zero sympathy when he comes back with the "you are judging" bullshit. Oh well, CR and anhailla if McCain wins it will at least be party due to your heros. Woo hoo, at least 4 more years of war and hate.
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Gotta love that....can't diss the Clintons for dissing Obama unless you want to burn the bridges towards unity

Spot the hyprocrisy there.
I see it - and I just read Bill's statement - missed it the first time.
That is not cool Bill. i condemn it.

What we got here is a failure to comoonicate ( Cool Hand Luke).

what we got is a circular firing squad - both camps doing everything they can to injure the other.

Sorta like the Israelis and the Arabs.

Only way to stop it is to let it be for awhile - see if we can stop picking the scabs.
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Oh man, so thick you can cut it with a knife. Every last post from CR is an Obama diss I have zero sympathy when he comes back with the "you are judging" bullshit. Oh well, CR and anhailla if McCain wins it will at least be party due to your heros. Woo hoo, at least 4 more years of war and hate.
Where did I say Bill Clinton was "my hero"?

Honestly, if anything...Barrack, Michelle and Biden are my "heroes".
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the only way to stop the damage is for both camps to let things slide.

The Hillary supporters are pissed because even after she was winning the later primarys
( like WV for ex. when Byrd still went for Obama)
the supers followed the path of least resistance.

And the Obama supporters here have documented Bill's actions.

But here's the thing:

Do you want Obama elected?

then maybe it's time to take some incoming for the purpose of breaking the cycle.

If this just keeps up, back and forth - then Obama is gonna be the one who doesn't get the backing.

So you can say it's more the Clinton's fault if you wish.

But Obama is the one who is being damaged with the disunity.
The Clintons are yesterdays news.
Nothing for them to lose.
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The Clintons have done nothing to help Obama what so ever, Hillary's vicious right wing tactics are now being used against Obama as we expected. Bill is given a canvas and the best you can come up with is:

Really????

Hillary is doing her part but nothing she can do will reverse the damage she's caused, none the less she's earned her right to speak tonight. Bill on the other hand can go to hell.
I cannot even agree that Hillary is doing her part.

Chris Matthews, Willie Brown, and Howard Fineman were just discussing how Hillary could rehabilitate her image and be a heroine by throwing her support to Obama tonight. Trouble is, it is months
and months too late. I do not have a quote, but Fineman said that Hillary is making noises that she does not want a roll call vote but her people on the floor are still pushing for it. What Hillary says
and what she does and what she means are three different things.

(Cindy Crowley of CNN, who has been pro-Hillary
all this time, remarked last week on how tepid
Clinton's remarks in support of Obama were at a
speech she gave last week. Carl Benstein and
other remarked on the same thing, saying that
she talked about herself more than Obama.
Hillary is dishonestly spinning the mechanics of
her non-vetting for the VP spot.)

In her passive-aggressive remarks to the PUMAs a few weeks ago in a backyard in California, Hillary suggested to them that they deserve catharsis. Read Elizabeth Kubler-Ross on the five stages
of grief and then read today's WaPo article about Hillary Clinton's depression after she suspended her campaign. It is Hillary who needs catharsis. And Howard Fineman just said on network television that is not his sense that either Clinton is ready to let go of her support or supporters.

I predict that Mrs. Clinton will say the right things tonight. I predict she will not mean a word she says.

As for Bill Clinton, I will say one more time that I was a passionate Bill Clinton supporter, enabler, Apologist for sixteen years. I have
been a Democrat for far longer than sixteen years and Bill Clinton's conduct in his wife's campaign flew in the face of everything I embrace about the Democratic party. "Vote for me; I don't steal
cars." "Vote for me; I don't rob banks." "They
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He has done nothing but hurt Obama during this entire campaign, even after the primaries and now this.

Bill, nobody likes your crying ass anymore so stay the hell away from those of us trying to move forward.
When I said Bill Clinton shouldn't be allowed to speak at the convention a bunch of fools on here jumped my shit saying we need unity.
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When I said Bill Clinton shouldn't be allowed to speak at the convention a bunch of fools on here jumped my shit saying we need unity.
Mark Penn is helping Bill Clinton write his speech, which David Axelrod still has not seen.

Hillary spoke to a fund-raising group today and did not mention Obama's name:

Clinton Speaks To Supporters: No Mention Of Obama

If anyone believes a word she says tonight --
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Hillary is doing her part but nothing she can do will reverse the damage she's caused, none the less she's earned her right to speak tonight. Bill on the other hand can go to hell.
OMG what will Obama do about the terrible hillary and her horrible "right wing" attacks? Will he cry about it? Hell no. Neither will I, and any supporter who cares about the real issues here like our economy, the war criminals in our whitehouse, the SICKNESS this country is facing in this new century.

The Clinton's are about as relevant as a fart in the wind now. They are just relics of a bygone age -Auf Wiedersehento the Clinton's we will remember them fondly from the white house.
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Mark Penn is helping Bill Clinton write his speech, which David Axelrod still has not seen.

Hillary spoke to a fund-raising group today and did not mention Obama's name:

Clinton Speaks To Supporters: No Mention Of Obama

If anyone believes a word she says tonight --
So she lip sync's her support for the "nominee's".....
Hillary and her group are Republican's in disguise.....
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Mark Penn is helping Bill Clinton write his speech, which David Axelrod still has not seen.

Hillary spoke to a fund-raising group today and did not mention Obama's name:

Clinton Speaks To Supporters: No Mention Of Obama

If anyone believes a word she says tonight --
WomenCount.org is linked on the HillaryClintonForum site. They are bitching about Biden's remarks about his wifes beauty on their site.
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