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Old 08-27-2008, 03:07 PM   #71 (permalink)
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bill clinton could do a lot towards healing the divisions the clinton's created if he admits in his speech tonight that even he was green going into the office of president, as anyone else who is elected for that office is, given that is one office you can't really train for until you get in there....

but we'll see...
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Kennedy wasn't "great" in my opinion. I would say people of the more left persuasion like him because he personified the values that care about. He advocated a socially responsible citizen framework in that advocated minority rights, environmentalism, giving aid to the "disadvantaged" etc.

Great? No. "Great" is the guy that doesn't exist. It is a national myth.
I find it strange that many on the left like him so much considering that essentially he started the "trickle down" economics....not Reagan...
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oh pleeeease. reagan coined that phrase and all the supply side policies and deregulation that go with it. don't even TRY to say clintons invented it. i'm too old to fool with that. i know better.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:26 PM   #74 (permalink)
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oh pleeeease. reagan coined that phrase and all the supply side policies and deregulation that go with it. don't even TRY to say clintons invented it. i'm too old to fool with that. i know better.
I said Kennedy did(even though he didn't call it that).......google it.
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Old 08-27-2008, 04:06 PM   #75 (permalink)
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He has done nothing but hurt Obama during this entire campaign, even after the primaries and now this.

Bill, nobody likes your crying ass anymore so stay the hell away from those of us trying to move forward.
I thought Bill sounded slightly tipsy here.

Eric, Obama is a big boy and we know he can handle it. Bill's sour grapes doesn't detract from Obama, it strengthens Obama's resolve and image. Don't worry, it's all going to turn out the way you and your fellow dems want.
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oh pleeeease. reagan coined that phrase and all the supply side policies and deregulation that go with it. don't even TRY to say clintons invented it. i'm too old to fool with that. i know better.
Regan didn't coin shit. I doubt he could wipe his ass without someone helping him. No one is saying that at all.

We were discussing idea of "greatness" in the context of American politics. Also he was talking about Kennedy and the fact it [the term] was coined in the late 1960s and introduced into the public vernacular by the mid 1970s.

Oh and by the way. Supply-side is not the same thing as "trickle-down" economics.
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