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Old 08-27-2008, 08:00 AM   #21 (permalink)
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It was just one speech.
The theme was "support obama -not me now".

she'll be doing campaigning about the specific issues.
If you believe that I got this bridge... in Minasota, real cheap. Takin' offers.
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:15 AM   #22 (permalink)
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This is all the more reason why her speech last night was nothing more than Hillary's self absorbed bullshit. It wasn't great. Wasn't even good. It was a load of shit. And the masses have accepted every shovel full. This is why the so-called "democatic" party is so easily toppled election after election.
My bar was much lower than yours.

She actually said Barack Obama's name three or four times. She seemed gracious and sincere in her praise of Michelle Obama. If the roll call vote tonight goes smoothly -- and I feel much more
confident that it will -- I feel great relief that the Republicans will not be able to accuse us of having a divided convention. (I won't really relax until Bill's speech is over.)

But only you will appreciate what my 5-year old granddaughter just called and told me: "No way, no how, no Hillary Clinton, no McCain!"
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:29 AM   #23 (permalink)
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My bar was much lower than yours.

She actually said Barack Obama's name three or four times. She seemed gracious and sincere in her praise of Michelle Obama. If the roll call vote tonight goes smoothly -- and I feel much more
confident that it will -- I feel great relief that the Republicans will not be able to accuse us of having a divided convention. (I won't really relax until Bill's speech is over.)

But only you will appreciate what my 5-year old granddaughter just called and told me: "No way, no how, no Hillary Clinton, no McCain!"
that's cute about you're granddaughter...lol

and I just counted... Hiliary mentioned Obama 11 times

I totally agree that it will be easier to relax after Bill's speech
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:36 AM   #24 (permalink)
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My bar was much lower than yours.

She actually said Barack Obama's name three or four times. She seemed gracious and sincere in her praise of Michelle Obama.
Seems... That's the problem. You're barely looking at the surface. She jumped through some hoops and suddenly people forget that she didn't say one thing to reverse the damage she inflicted in the primary. She prctically burns down the party house for four months and suddenly we have to praise her for putting out the last few smoldering coals after the house has been leveled?

Seriously,

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If the roll call vote tonight goes smoothly -- and I feel much more
confident that it will -- I feel great relief that the Republicans will not be able to accuse us of having a divided convention. (I won't really relax until Bill's speech is over.)

But only you will appreciate what my 5-year old granddaughter just called and told me: "No way, no how, no Hillary Clinton, no McCain!"
Bare in mind his vote won't count for thirteen years.
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:44 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I am willing to bet the majority of those posters were not going to support the Democratic nominee even if it had been Hillary. These are false flags. If Obama loses there is no way in hell Hillary will get the nomination in 2012, well not the Democratic one anyway.
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and I just counted... Hiliary mentioned Obama 11 times
I stand corrected, and I am truly glad to be reminded that she said
his name 11 times.
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I stand corrected, and I am truly glad to be reminded that she said
his name 11 times.
that was intended to make you feel good

not so much to correct you
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Here's hoping but I'm still skeptical.

My only beef with her speech is that she did not attack the PUMA's. She should have called them out. She should have shamed them.
She SHOULD have at least pretended to live up to the lie she told throughout the convention about her personal standard for dissociating ones self from the negativities of others.

Recall----denouncing is NOT enough!

One must denounce AND reject.

Failing to have done so ...... and not even requesting that her name be removed from sites .......one can ONLY assume that BY HILLARY'S standards she supports PUMA and like groups.
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The bottom line is VERY clear here-----if the poll bounce does not reflect the 27% still claiming that they will not vote for Obama----then Hillary has NO power, NO following and NO future in politics......

Leaders have to have people who listen to them and move behind them to be LEADERS.

If you can't get people to do anything ----then you are NOT leading!
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