itsmeeeeeee

well, i sent the mc cain speech comments to CNN, and the facts, and within two hours, CNN was calling him on the lie and showing the facts.

the mccain camp has alienated the media and now is a good time to give them info to get out there!

palin is currently polling more favorable than both obama and mccain. that's a huge problem! and with the mccain campaign not allowing her to talk to the press, people can't get the REAL picture of this bitch unless WE help get it out!

the bloom needs to come off this rose FAST!!!!

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guest1234567

Go back and read what I said. I said boards LIKE this one. Not just this board. And all I have said is that this insane item about selling a plane is a non-issue and that there are other real issues. When too much focus is given to a non-issue, it cheapens the efforts of rooting out the others.

And people keep saying she sold this plane at a loss. I really have a problem with that phrase because it's not like anyone can expect to get what they paid for something when they sell it.

So in this case Alaska bought the 1984 Westwind II for $2.7 million in 2005.

She Put it on ebay for $2.5 million in 2007 and then when nobody met the minimum bid it eventually sold it for $2.1 million.

That price compares favorably for used Westwind IIs on these sights

WESTWIND II, Used WESTWIND II, WESTWIND II For Sale at Controller.com

JET - IAI - WESTWIND II - Corporate Aircraft for sale - Used and New Listed on Business Air

Westwind II For Sale at Aircaft Exchange

Do you really think that wasn't a fair price for a used aircraft?

guest1234567

See, If McCain would have listened to me and actually used the words she actually said, he wouldn't have been called on this .

RK77

See---now that wasn't so hard was it?

Instead of hiding behind insincere bullshit about what we should or should not talk about just come right out and say you don't agree and here's why.

I have NO idea what airplanes sell for so I would be the wrong person to ask about a fair price.

Nonetheless, to give a personal contributor any sort of a deal was out of line.

RK77

I LOVE when repukes try to corner the market on the definition of lying!

You seem to choose to ignore what her intended message was and whether the facts support that intent. Typical---but waste of time. The woman was and is not and never will be a reformer. Using this example to try to paint herself as one is ridiculous.

Stop trying to play your sanctimonious broken record. YOUR opinion of what is damaging a national campaign is not credible.

guest1234567

I was not being insincere. This topic is not worth going after her for because SHE never said she SOLD it on Ebay. Go after her for other stuff.

PolitiFact | No bidders on eBay; sold it offline

McCain on the other hand just said she sold it on ebay for a profit. So he looks like an senile idiot who can't keep his facts straight for even a couple of days.

guest1234567

Jesus Christ, I have never supported her. I have the ability to break down issues and separate one from another. But people like you have a real problem with keeping their emotions in check.

Who is trying to paint her as a reformer? In fact, I've offerred other issues that are more appropriate to go after. I have actively encouraged that folks go after what I feel are more politically damaging issues that surround her. Her NOT saying she sold a plane is not a good issue.

And your right, this is My OPINION. That's all its ever been. We've all seen how the opinions of the DNC have worked in winning presidential elections have worked. Maybe other tactics should be used.

guest1234567

Did you actually read the message you quoted? I gave a link to a picture of a document that she wrote on bragging about her earmarks that she got and didn't return. Isn't that damning enough?