Denie

I know of a few corporations that have gone zero carbon using hydro. It'll take time and more importantly, deman by public to a finer point public $$$.

Titanium Cat

Right now I don't think it is anywhere near feasible using just solar and wind. Of course I also don't think hydrogen is the go to source in the near to medium future. Batteries consistantly out perform hydrogen fuel cells and with the advent of plug-in hybrids you can combine existing gasoline deployment with additional electrical generation and significantly reduce emissions.

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Heretic

That would depend on what EM spctrums the cells can convert and at what percentage of effeciency. The technology's already at 15% for the visible spectrum, so it's only a matter of time.

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Heretic

You what makes me laugh about Mudwhistle [of all people] bringing this up. here he's sayin' we're a bunch of liberal alarmists screaming the sky's falling and yet you got repubilcans now following our lead when it comes to addressing this issue.

The worm's turned.

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mudwhistle

Republicans have been leading on responsible environmental policy since Teddy Roosevelt. We just don't believe in strangling the economy or flying around in a private jet to show slideshows about it.

Heretic

Actually, Teddy was the first and last of the really environmentally conscious republicans. Republicans have been bringing up the rear on environmentalism from then on. And you obviously don't understand just much green there is to be made in going hard core green. Every prediction from right wingers about sound environmental policy hurting the economy proved to be utterly false virtually without exception. So republicans have shit to say about it.

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GuitarWizard

Maby a combination of thing's, but I hear sugar cane is doing vary well and it has a higher energy yield than corn which balances out the cost to purportion in terms of manufacturing and is the number one fuel already in place In Brazil I believe don't quote me on that as far as the country goes but Im positive it is in place as a national fuel source as ethanol along with standard gasoline.

Ouroboros

It is my understanding that Brazil is energy independent. Of course, they're also mowing down rainforests and extincting species at an alarming rate.

GuitarWizard

Sounds good to me .

The American tariff on Brazilian ethanol is 54 cents a gallon.

And I think if we hook up with Brazil we can have even more of an impact on the rain forest as well as have a better chance of bringing sugar cane to the states because everyone has everything invested in corn thay don't want to switch over which is no big surprise .

But common since will tell you sugar cane is the better direction to go.

Ouroboros

Are you saying mowing down the rain forest is a good thing? Growing plants for fuel seems a bit Rube Goldberg to me when one considers the amount of energy it takes to grow plants.

Here's a thought, why don't we subpoena the FBI under the "Freedom of Information" act to release all of Tesla's research on power generation?