The_Heretic

Read Jared Diamond's Collapse.

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OldManOnFire

This might make some sense if the 'masses' had the same arsenal of weapons that the governments and warlords possess and if they believed in killing.

Many of these areas have people who own nothing and certainly don't have the means to procure weapons. And even if they did, most are peace-loving people not interested in the barbaric methods of carnage and force. Hell...the people of the USA cannot help themselves and are constantly whining for the government to solve all issues for them. If this exists here, then don't expect some dirt-poor culture to quickly rise up from their oppression. You assume that 'all' of these people have land to farm, water, supplies, and farm implements, and the resources for all of this stuff--preposterous!

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Refuge51

Even land they do own isn't really theirs..it belongs to the govt. also. They can come and take whatever they want when they want. It's very tragic really.

PursuitOfHappinessParty

Good God, you'll post anything to pick a fight with me. Pathetic.

Thanks for posting yet another 'whining' attack on Americans.

Thanks be to the fact that you didn't exist in 1776. As to people helping themselves, you're not much a student of history.

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OldManOnFire

It's interesting that in the US there are something like 125 million houses. Now not all houses have enough exposed dirt to plant a vegetable garden, but even if we assume half of them do, this says there is no reason why 60 million homes cannot have a producing vegetable garden. I'll go way out on a limb for some of my naysayers on this site and further assume that 5 million of these houses have residents who are considered to live in poverty. I wonder how many of them understand how to buy some seeds, dig some dirt, add some water, and in no time there are healthy vegetables to eat?? It's a rhetorical question but my answer will be like 12. Of course I'm being facetious but my point is that if people in the ever-powerful and all-knowing USA cannot figure this out, then why do so many of us believe all these people in these very remote and poverty stricken areas will magically have the capabilities?

BTW, if I was Ted Turner, and I owned thousands of square miles of land, I would plant corn or whatever and flood the markets with it including giving it away for free...are you listening Ted??

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OldManOnFire

Here's the way I look at our situation in the US today POHP; we all have a choice to do the best we can or do things half-assed. My opinion is that most things we do today is quarter-assed but I'll yield to half-assed for the sake of being so nice. This country has lost it's exuberance, and it's pride, to be the best in the world. And the results of this pathetic achievement over the past forty years has lead us to today's horrific issues. Let's see POHP; we have a health care crisis, a social security crisis, an Iraq and Middle East crisis, a recession crisis, a $10 trillion debt crisis, an education crisis, an illegal drug crisis, a crumbling infrastructure crisis, an immigration crisis, a poverty crisis, and soon we'll have a global climate and McCain crisis. I'd say things have been quarter-assed at best, and if we can't do better than our current situation, then we might as well fold the tent...

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Malkavian

Well, whatever this lady is buying is sweet and under $1 USD... Good for her. Nevermind, i think the sticker is for different product. My father complains about inflation there, so i guess it's still a big problem.

As for global food... They have far too many people for their tech level. Need to either improve tech, or reduce number of people...

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Refuge51

There's a man who runs a shop on a road curve and he utilizes every single space for gardening. Then you know what he does? Invites the poor to come and pick what they need. What a wonderful man.

Well, so much for any of us looking down our noses...have you seen this? I was just watching it.
Bill Moyers Journal . Home | PBS

PursuitOfHappinessParty

Superb. This is how to post to me, clear and concise with no 'f-u POHPs'!

I do agree with you, just on a differing path. It's not Americans, IMO.

We are but animals. Animals basically want to Eat, find/keep shelter, have sex, and even play. Most animals, and most peoples of the earth, struggle at the first three with hopes of attaining the fourth.

A pride of Lions, if you place Lion sized doggie-igloos with food outside and a willing Lioness, would become fat and lazy - never to roam their territory.

Americans gained undue world economic clout thru our distance, population, natural resources, and post WWII infrastructure (manpowr, new womanpower, factories, RRs, and roads that Europe/Asia didn't have) to become that lazy pride of Lions. We are hoist to the petard of our successes.

Kinda hard to convince the masses, when they're fat and happy. Food shortages loose their impact when the aisle is full at the store. That many aren't so fat and happy is not impacting the rest as we're a disjointed and disconnected populace. The 'haves' have taken over the entire market, MSM, and advertisements.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, unless you can't hear the squeak over your IPod and new plasma T.V. The U.S. representative system has been hijacked by Americas hierarchy, it's 'royalty' who avow that we can eat cake. All the things you've said are correct, but everything isn't everything. It's an illusion, exampled by the 53% of eligible voters who abstain.

America has been too successful for it's own eventual good. It will take calamity (such as a depression) to wake the masses. Individuals are easy, it's the mob mentality that's a bitch.

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Gaia

That sure is alot of Crisis. But God's on our side, so we'll be alright...

Exuberance, Pride, best-in-the-world...in what? BS? Biggest Arsenal? Fattest People? The most brainwashed sheep?

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