PursuitOfHappinessParty

This is beginning to look like the 'truthers' threads. Obviously, there are no undecideds here.

OMOF and Drs;
Both of you have missed my point, but I'm pretty sure that has everything to do with my ability to convey my intentions. That you both are genuine in your beliefs is why I tend to debate with you longer than I normally would when the situation has reached that 'no new news' point.

__________________
" Tie two birds together and though they have four wings they cannot fly " Blind Master in 'Circle Of Iron'

PursuitOfHappinessParty

I knew you wouldn't disappoint.....

__________________
" Tie two birds together and though they have four wings they cannot fly " Blind Master in 'Circle Of Iron'

OldManOnFire

[quote]Okay...fair enough...then what would you change?

Labor prices are determined by supply and demand--not by the corporations. There are environmental laws in place and all businesses and people in the USA must abide by these.

Just once, like with the mortgage crisis, I'd like to hear a single person say; yup...it's my fault...

__________________
Did you know both our problems and the solutions can be found simply by looking in our mirrors...and...Never confuse the extraordinary stuff I think and write with that of a well-balanced person...

OldManOnFire

In most private business, in corporations with decent policies, those in the company who procure materials and services are not permitted to accept anything at all...many not even a free lunch. And if they do, they will be terminated. It's called ETHICS and it is monitored for the health and good of the company.

This is a very simple policy that should be in place in Congress...

__________________
Did you know both our problems and the solutions can be found simply by looking in our mirrors...and...Never confuse the extraordinary stuff I think and write with that of a well-balanced person...

OldManOnFire

Whatever point you wish to discuss...put it out there and we'll talk...

__________________
Did you know both our problems and the solutions can be found simply by looking in our mirrors...and...Never confuse the extraordinary stuff I think and write with that of a well-balanced person...

Malkavian

OldMan is right... even the appearance of conflict of interest is a bad thing in my company...

__________________
Woof!

Malkavian

Must have missed it... And yes, i'm really curious.

__________________
Woof!

OldManOnFire

I'll bet the more arrogant ones in Congress, and even the moderate arrogant, have a creed that says; We do what we want and the general public won't care after three days.

And as selfish as this creed may sound, they would be absolutely correct, so they function in a system where other than election day, they don't really need to answer to anyone. And even an election day is usually a cakewalk for an incumbent.

Asking Congress to be self-regulating is like asking Enron to self-regulate...ain't going to happen...

__________________
Did you know both our problems and the solutions can be found simply by looking in our mirrors...and...Never confuse the extraordinary stuff I think and write with that of a well-balanced person...

PursuitOfHappinessParty

I've always maintained that if you enter 'civil service', or in the least a certain level, then you get paid for that position at its current adjusted level for life. The trade is you no longer get to make a private income. Previous money and properties and interests made previous to office is okay. No stocks. This tends to make you less succeptable to self-interests, yours or other's as influences.

I don't want to see an office, such as the Presidency, to be considered a stepping-stone or opportunity to the later good life for your 'deeds' in office. I would prefer a civil minded sort who's goal in life is said office.

This country used to brag that any kid could grow up to be president. Now it should be altered that any president can grow to be on a corporate board.

__________________
" Tie two birds together and though they have four wings they cannot fly " Blind Master in 'Circle Of Iron'

OldManOnFire

[quote]Where do you come up with this stuff? Who cares what people do after they quit one JOB and start another JOB. A job is a job no matter if it's in the government or private sector. Is it a jealousy?

Term limits!

Well...all presidents were kids in America who grew up to become president...and all in the future will be the same.

It's up to the corporation to decide who to invite to their Board and why should this matter to you? If an ex-president brings something positive...they why not? Now...if you wish to pay their full salary plus benefits and pay raises for life, then maybe it would be different...

__________________
Did you know both our problems and the solutions can be found simply by looking in our mirrors...and...Never confuse the extraordinary stuff I think and write with that of a well-balanced person...