Bill Maher talking about bees disappearing

lollipop · 05-08-2008, 02:44 PM

I've heard about bees disappearing for a while now so I found Bill Maher's commentary on disappearing bees interesting -

YouTube - Einstein and the Bees

BillCosby · 05-08-2008, 05:55 PM

I think there was another thread about this a couple months ago.......???

Anyway I have been hearing about it for years.... Over the last year or so it has just collapsed......

I got a friend I kayak w/ that has been wanting to get into it as he thinks it is a gold mind........ Now like 80% of the bees are just gone.. They fly away & know one knows what is happening w/ them......... Before there was the mite but the commercials could deal w/ that w/ a treatment.....

I have heard several theories one that made the most sense was that it is not one but a combination of all the issues they face. From pesticide to one crop feedings........... There is about 30 isses that are sucept or possibly all playing a part.......

I have a big valley oak in my back yard & have had a huge hive in it for @ least 10 or the last 12 years....... I notice some a few weeks ago but I just went out & looked & there is none.........

I got looks of lemons & on the blossoms I see some bees but more bumble bees than usual............

W.M.DEEEZ · 05-08-2008, 07:06 PM

Tons of wild honeybees, as well as others around here. I think the problem is with the huge, commercial hives.

Not much different than warehousing any animals...disease runs rampant, and I suspect the same applies here.

BillCosby · 05-08-2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.M.DEEEZ

Tons of wild honeybees, as well as others around here. I think the problem is with the huge, commercial hives.

Not much different than warehousing any animals...disease runs rampant, and I suspect the same applies here.

They have not been able to narrow it down to just one or two "diseases".........

Where are you @???

CosmicRocker · 05-08-2008, 07:29 PM

most hives aren't huge conglomorants.
You got lots of independant beekeepers with a few hundred hives, at most.

another problem is the lack of diversity of the flowers they feed on.
I think they pretty much ruled out mites as the cause.

BillCosby · 05-08-2008, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

most hives aren't huge conglomorants.
You got lots of independant beekeepers with a few hundred hives, at most.

another problem is the lack of diversity of the flowers they feed on.
I think they pretty much ruled out mites as the cause.

Yep........... IMO the one crop feeding has to be a part..... Lots of the things liek the "treatment" they were getting is certainly suspect as well as the abundance of pesticides........... Hell they must get exposed to almost every single one of them........

CosmicRocker · 05-08-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillCosby

Yep........... IMO the one crop feeding has to be a part..... Lots of the things liek the "treatment" they were getting is certainly suspect as well as the abundance of pesticides........... Hell they must get exposed to almost every single one of them........

right. i forgot about the peticides.
DId you happen to catch the 60 minutes story last year on it?
It went into a lot of issues.

BillCosby · 05-08-2008, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicRocker

right. i forgot about the peticides.
DId you happen to catch the 60 minutes story last year on it?
It went into a lot of issues.

No..............

I saw a couple doc's on it as well as some news shows......... On link tv....

IF they lose the European bee lots of foods will be nonexistent..... It would be disaster on a level w/ the extinctions in the past...

CosmicRocker · 05-08-2008, 07:42 PM

It's been awhile ( 60 minutes), but they had some ideas.
i wonder what the latest info is?

PursuitOfHappinessParty · 05-08-2008, 07:47 PM

I've been reading and blogging about this for over a year now.

Colony Collapse Disorder. It's important to realize this also just happens naturally, so some of the ' and here ' inidividual cases are probably naturally occuring. The vast majority of CCD cases are commercial pollinators. These colonies are transported to areas that need bees to polinate, but don't have enough local natural bees.

This tends to make me believe that it's pesticide driven. Fruit and nut tree industries heavily use pesticides. Another hint that it's a pesticide and not parasitic/disease is that those insects that normally move into abandoned hives do not move into CCD hives until a very long time, if at all.

I watched a show on TV about an area in China that has lost all it's bees to pesticides. They HAND POLINATE now. This is NOT AN OPTION for the U.S., as it's slow, unreliable, and massively hard work.

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BillCosby The party of the pissed!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,502 My Mood: Thanks: 183 Thanked 117 Times in 91 Posts	I think there was another thread about this a couple months ago.......??? Anyway I have been hearing about it for years.... Over the last year or so it has just collapsed...... I got a friend I kayak w/ that has been wanting to get into it as he thinks it is a gold mind........ Now like 80% of the bees are just gone.. They fly away & know one knows what is happening w/ them......... Before there was the mite but the commercials could deal w/ that w/ a treatment..... I have heard several theories one that made the most sense was that it is not one but a combination of all the issues they face. From pesticide to one crop feedings........... There is about 30 isses that are sucept or possibly all playing a part....... I have a big valley oak in my back yard & have had a huge hive in it for @ least 10 or the last 12 years....... I notice some a few weeks ago but I just went out & looked & there is none......... I got looks of lemons & on the blossoms I see some bees but more bumble bees than usual............ __________________ Preventive war is not war!!!!Counter-terror is not terror
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W.M.DEEEZ I don't exist either Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,437 Thanks: 5 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	Tons of wild honeybees, as well as others around here. I think the problem is with the huge, commercial hives. Not much different than warehousing any animals...disease runs rampant, and I suspect the same applies here. __________________ Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got til it's gone
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CosmicRocker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: lost in a lost world Posts: 6,581 My Mood: Thanks: 71 Thanked 59 Times in 43 Posts	most hives aren't huge conglomorants. You got lots of independant beekeepers with a few hundred hives, at most. another problem is the lack of diversity of the flowers they feed on. I think they pretty much ruled out mites as the cause. __________________ "Hey now Baby, get into my big black car. I wanna just show you, what my politics are" "I'm a political man and I practice what I preach So don't deny me baby, not while you're in my reach." Politician - Cream
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CosmicRocker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: lost in a lost world Posts: 6,581 My Mood: Thanks: 71 Thanked 59 Times in 43 Posts	It's been awhile ( 60 minutes), but they had some ideas. i wonder what the latest info is? __________________ "Hey now Baby, get into my big black car. I wanna just show you, what my politics are" "I'm a political man and I practice what I preach So don't deny me baby, not while you're in my reach." Politician - Cream
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PursuitOfHappinessParty Keep It Simple Stupid Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dallas/Ft. Worth Posts: 2,712 My Mood: Thanks: 26 Thanked 28 Times in 23 Posts	I've been reading and blogging about this for over a year now. Colony Collapse Disorder. It's important to realize this also just happens naturally, so some of the ' and here ' inidividual cases are probably naturally occuring. The vast majority of CCD cases are commercial pollinators. These colonies are transported to areas that need bees to polinate, but don't have enough local natural bees. This tends to make me believe that it's pesticide driven. Fruit and nut tree industries heavily use pesticides. Another hint that it's a pesticide and not parasitic/disease is that those insects that normally move into abandoned hives do not move into CCD hives until a very long time, if at all. I watched a show on TV about an area in China that has lost all it's bees to pesticides. They HAND POLINATE now. This is NOT AN OPTION for the U.S., as it's slow, unreliable, and massively hard work. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It puts the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again.
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