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Old 06-13-2008, 01:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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yes. $45? How is that possible?
Cookie, meet Ted Kaczynski.

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Old 06-13-2008, 01:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Cookie, meet Ted Kaczynski.

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Old 06-13-2008, 01:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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yes. $45? How is that possible?
I paid $50 a month last winter for gas and electric. My place 1500 sq. ft.
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The way I plan to use these panels, is by connecting to the power grid. The power company buys my electricity...any surplus, that is.

At $5.00/gallon for oil, this winter will cost between $5-$7000.00 just for oil. If I generate enough electricity...which I should...I will find sources of electric heat as opposed to using my oil. I'll convert from propane hot water/cooking to electric.

I expect oil to far exceed $5.00/gallon.


I'm tired of getting raped for oil and propane. The oil companies will not be offering pre buys this year.


I will insulate the house, and see about a woodstove in the basement for the future. In my shop, I use one tank of oil per winter, because I built a wood system. Otherwise, I would use 200 gallons of oil, every 3 weeks in the coldest months of the winter.

I have found a local person who I have to meet with to see about the solar deal.
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The way I plan to use these panels, is by connecting to the power grid. The power company buys my electricity...any surplus, that is.

At $5.00/gallon for oil, this winter will cost between $5-$7000.00 just for oil. If I generate enough electricity...which I should...I will find sources of electric heat as opposed to using my oil. I'll convert from propane hot water/cooking to electric.

I expect oil to far exceed $5.00/gallon.


I'm tired of getting raped for oil and propane. The oil companies will not be offering pre buys this year.


I will insulate the house, and see about a woodstove in the basement for the future. In my shop, I use one tank of oil per winter, because I built a wood system. Otherwise, I would use 200 gallons of oil, every 3 weeks in the coldest months of the winter.

I have found a local person who I have to meet with to see about the solar deal.

Wow. That's expensive.
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I paid $50 a month last winter for gas and electric. My place 1500 sq. ft.
yeah, but you live in paradise. No -10 degrees in winter, or 105 degrees in summer.
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yeah, but you live in paradise. No -10 degrees in winter, or 105 degrees in summer.

True...I guess the question is "what does he pay for cooling in the summer?"
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yes. $45? How is that possible?
Well, by 'winter' i assumed 3 months at $15 each. That's about average of my electric bill (heat and electricity combined)... But i live in an apartment.

If you don't believe me, ask Anhailla, she is an expert in my billing ways.

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yeah, but you live in paradise. No -10 degrees in winter, or 105 degrees in summer.
I live in Michigan, and no, i'm not Ted.
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True...I guess the question is "what does he pay for cooling in the summer?"
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