PursuitOfHappinessParty

Careful, or OMOF will say you and the displaced people are jealous of Jerry Jones.

It's simple really. The government of and for the people are displacing people at the whim of a private entity. Having the Jerry Jones Experience in Arlington will improve the city's revenue overall. But no so much as many would believe, and at what cost. The overall benefit comes at the price of individual equal citizens are being forced by the government to abandon their homes. This from a very non largely won vote, which tells me this isn't mandate-sized enough to warrant using the 'good of the many over the good of the one' ideology.
Which leaves corporate Jones ramrodding this thing down Arlington officials throats and them caving. It has nothing to do with being a sports fan, I bleed Blue and Silver. This is a precedence setting action that impinges upon citizen's rights, and we've had far too much of that already.

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PursuitOfHappinessParty

The city took our farm. My relatives own surrounding areas, one of theirs was taken too. He fought and got to stay until death, then they moved in, after already using about half (400 acres ish).
We got premium price, but that wasn't the point.

My childhood farm is now a small-town sewage treatment pit. Tell me how good my settlement was again?

I have to examine Pickens further, but I'm sooo getting the same vibes as you on this one too.

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ocealdia

That does suck. All in the name of progress of sporting facilities
The same thing happened in Oklahoma with properties surrounding OSU.

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jowey

Good points about 'eminent domain', didnt think of that.

Consider the area of land to be occupied by these structures. Dual use, agriculture and power generation not a bad deal. Our current government and economy will mean that they will not pay "fair value" for the land - donate your land to protect us from terrorists.....

Maybe the owners of the land can negotiate a lease arrangement so that they can continue land use.

Just how altruistic is this guy ? There is nothing wrong with turning a profit, the problem is that these individuals are gouging and using the government to leverage their portfolios which they send overseas to maximize their profits.

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Malkavian

Hmm... It looks like BP realized they had bigger stocks of natural gas than crude oil, and are now pushing it.

More power to them, though.

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PursuitOfHappinessParty

That's what the city did for us, we still run cattle there. The mix of agri and wind is another benefit of wind energy. The question I have is if this (Picken's) type of use is the way we wish to go about it. If a city were to invest in enough wind generators for local needs and took land thru ID, then its more or less okay (depending on circumstances, in the long run I was okay with what happened to our farm big-picture wise). To do so for private industry to then charge for the power is another issue.

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jowey

Agreed.......

I am amazed that the cities are not taking advantage of their wind flows - I like these designs....

I imagine the leverage applied on the spindles of the "prop" designs would result in bearing, juncture fatigue and added expenses.....

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PursuitOfHappinessParty

Looks cool, too.

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jowey

Back in the BM era before I found this I was wondering why the cities did not design to take advantage of their winds. Saw this design and thought, that is a good design concept to take advantage of fluid flow..... IMO

I would imagine that sky scrapers could take advantage of the chimney effect. Remember reading about a city around Niagra effect the wind flows in a negative manner, resulting in fog or mist ?

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Danimal

It is a real shame that T Bone's shady business practices are possibly going to be used to derail a good idea. I am a little biased in this area as my new job is installing wind and solar systems. Realistically it is niave to think everyone who profits off this logical form of energy will be morally upright. In fact I have little doubt that those who profit the most will be borderline criminal like most ultra successfull businessmen in this country (and around the world for that matter). That being said, renewable energy is now a realistic option as oil prices go up and technology advances is the wind and solar power fields, the vast difference in cost has narrowed dramatically. It is now a viable option to look into wind and solar power for personal use and expect to see cost benifits in a reasonable amount of time. I hope more and more people who live in areas that can most efficiently benefit from these natural resources will look into the option of wind and solar power. State and local agencies would also be wise to consider the options, we already have 5 wind systems possibly being installed in Des Moines at city libraries and other municipalities.
As for public domain, it is consistantly used by big money to muscle private citizens to leave in the name of "progress", when the reality is that it's the money not progress that is the gov't's motivation in these decisions. Money is always the gov't's motivation in virtually everything they do.

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