border-free EU- Is NAFTA next......???? - Page 2

Shake · 12-30-2007, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dianekkdi

The racist hysteria is created by the pro amnesty and corporate sponsorship.

Those who are against illegal immigration will cite economics, environmental impact, wage suppression--economics again, government sponsorship...etc.
Most all of it comes down to economic impact.

No they don't. 90% of it is nonsense about 'them done don't speak us'uns English, y'all!' and other completely, 100% racist bullshit.

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It's not a case of "you don't like me so you don't want me here..." That's redherring bullshit that helps avoid the real issues. The reduction of an argument down to emotion is a sure way to avoid logical solutions.

If that's your feeling, you haven't heard from the people stirring the pot. It's not 'illegal immigrants', it's brown people. No more, no less. Read the bigots at the forefront: Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage, Rollye James, Ron Paul, and the rest. It's a 'defence of culture', aka no brown people.

DanS. · 12-30-2007, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shake

If we were to establish worker rights in a bloc such as NAFTA, it would simply be that citizens of all these nations are allowed to work in any NAFTA nation, enjoying the same rights any worker in said nation enjoys. If Worker A goes to Canada, he receives the same rights in terms of minimum wage and anti-discrimination law that a native worker receives.

I agree with that....

BlackVision · 02-03-2008, 12:59 PM

The current sentiment in the US is for more border security not less. From both Republicans and Democrats. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John McCain have all voted to authorize the building of the 700 mile fence that is currently under construction as Senators.

BillCosby · 02-03-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackVision

The current sentiment in the US is for more border security not less. From both Republicans and Democrats. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John McCain have all voted to authorize the building of the 700 mile fence that is currently under construction as Senators.

Hopefully they will find enough illegals willing to work on it..... Not sure that gov contract work pays all that well...................

kblair7 · 02-03-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackVision

The current sentiment in the US is for more border security not less. From both Republicans and Democrats. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John McCain have all voted to authorize the building of the 700 mile fence that is currently under construction as Senators.

I don't hear anyone asking the big question...

Will it keep the huns out???

chrisbb · 02-04-2008, 12:19 AM

if the States had not demolished the Mexican economy, they might not have such an issue with illegal migrants

DanS. · 02-04-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisbb

if the States had not demolished the Mexican economy, they might not have such an issue with illegal migrants

when? how?

Brainpolice · 02-04-2008, 01:55 AM

*boinks the paleocons and labor union nationalists*

chrisbb · 02-04-2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DRS112

when? how?

look at Mexican farmers. under NAFTA, there is no way they can compete with subsidized American farmers. the price of corn from the States is so low that subsitence farmers cannot keep up and they have to give up their land

DanS. · 02-04-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisbb

look at Mexican farmers. under NAFTA, there is no way they can compete with subsidized American farmers. the price of corn from the States is so low that subsitence farmers cannot keep up and they have to give up their land

Wait a minute...first off I would like to see a source. Second off you are implying that their economy is worse off now than before NAFTA?

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chrisbb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,739 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 80 Thanked 62 Times in 50 Posts	if the States had not demolished the Mexican economy, they might not have such an issue with illegal migrants __________________ 'Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.’ - David Rockefeller, 'Memoirs', Random House, New York, 2002, page 405
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