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Old 04-06-2008, 10:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The resistance groups are not powerful enough to push Israel out of the occupied territories or cause crippling damage to the IDF, but they have done a good job at defending whats left of their homes by killing many invading Israeli soldiers who thumb their noses at Palestinian sovreignty.
If you mean Hamas or Hezballah, their interests are less about defending Palestinians and more about hating Israel.

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If Palestinians weren't on the streets everyday putting up a front, all of Palestine would be an Israeli settlment.
All of Palestine will be an Israeli settlement anyway. The reason is there's no one who cares about what's best for the Palestinians and also is in a position to do anything about it.

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Palestinians are better off being ruled by Palestinians than being ruled by a fascist apartheid state. The fighters help the Palestinians by preventing a Palestinian Holacaust. If the Jews want to exterminate the Palestinians, they have to kill all the rebels first!
Palestinians are better off moving out of Palestine. They shouldn't have to, but what's right or what's best for them as nothing to do with what will eventually happen.
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Old 04-06-2008, 11:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
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If you mean Hamas or Hezballah, their interests are less about defending Palestinians and more about hating Israel.
Their hate for Israel is completely understandable and quite frankly, not hating Israel is akin to treason if your a Palestinian.



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All of Palestine will be an Israeli settlement anyway. The reason is there's no one who cares about what's best for the Palestinians and also is in a position to do anything about it.
All of Palestine will never be an Israeli settlment. A few weapon procurments in the near future can quickly shift the balance of power to where Israel can no longer just throw its weight around within Palestine. Russia is currently looking into modifying very powerful air defence batteries that are "terrorist proof" meaning they cant be removed from the launching pad and be shoulder fired. That and with high quality anti-tank weapons aKa "Merkava(Gods Chariot) killers" on the ground, the Palestinians can hold their ground.

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Palestinians are better off moving out of Palestine. They shouldn't have to, but what's right or what's best for them as nothing to do with what will eventually happen.
They should stay and defend their homes.
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Their hate for Israel is completely understandable and quite frankly, not hating Israel is akin to treason if your a Palestinian.
That's a narritave told by hardliners within the Israeli government and of right wing media. Most Palestinians wouldn't mind Israel overall if the IDF didn't put rounds in their kids or bulldoze their houses.

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All of Palestine will never be an Israeli settlment. A few weapon procurments in the near future can quickly shift the balance of power to where Israel can no longer just throw its weight around within Palestine. Russia is currently looking into modifying very powerful air defence batteries that are "terrorist proof" meaning they cant be removed from the launching pad and be shoulder fired. That and with high quality anti-tank weapons aKa "Merkava(Gods Chariot) killers" on the ground, the Palestinians can hold their ground.
Bullshit. Ask any 19th century American Indian. Justice was on their side too.

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They should stay and defend their homes.
You're asking the whole population to commit suicide in a fight they'd lose. How Klingon.
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That's a narritave told by hardliners within the Israeli government and of right wing media. Most Palestinians wouldn't mind Israel overall if the IDF didn't put rounds in their kids or bulldoze their houses.

I think they would take issue with "Jew Only" roads..



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Bullshit. Ask any 19th century American Indian. Justice was on their side too.
Unfortunately not enough weapons were on their side.

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You're asking the whole population to commit suicide in a fight they'd lose. How Klingon.
Eventually they will win the fight. The Jewish population within Israel will dwindle as the Arab population increases. There are only so many Jews in the world. All the Palestinians have to do is hold out and keep having lots of sex. Keep Palestine today, take Israel tommorow!
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That's a narritave told by hardliners within the Israeli government and of right wing media. Most Palestinians wouldn't mind Israel overall if the IDF didn't put rounds in their kids or bulldoze their houses.



Bullshit. Ask any 19th century American Indian. Justice was on their side too.



You're asking the whole population to commit suicide in a fight they'd lose. How Klingon.
Trueblue doesn't have a fucking clue about the region. LOL, I see that he actually thought Hamas and Hezbollah were on the same side. LMAO. He sees the problem as only Muslim/Arab versus Jew. He doesn't understand all the infighting between the different Arab and Muslim groups, Sunni, Shia, Druze and Christian which go way beyond what's happening in Iraq. He probably doesn't even know about the way Palestinians in Lebanon are treated. And he seems to think most Palestinians don't want peace with Israel which isn't true, most of them do. They're sick of the fighting as are most Israeli citizens. He actuallly thinks Hamas cares about the Palestinians and acts in their best interest. Plus, I get the feeling he thinks any sort of terror against Israel is cool. Kind of terror chic. So very trendy. What a moron.
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Trueblue doesn't have a fucking clue about the region. LOL, I see that he actually thought Hamas and Hezbollah were on the same side.
They are on the same side. They have a common enemy and they share weapons and personnel. Follow the weapons I always say. Russia to Iran, Iran to Hezbollah, and Hezbollah to Hamas.

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LMAO. He sees the problem as only Muslim/Arab versus Jew. He doesn't understand all the infighting between the different Arab and Muslim groups, Sunni, Shia, Druze and Christian which go way beyond what's happening in Iraq.
There will always be infighting within any group or organization, but here is the kicker. The secularists and the fundamentalists in Palestine both agree on one thing: A Free Palestine.


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And he seems to think most Palestinians don't want peace with Israel which isn't true, most of them do. They're sick of the fighting as are most Israeli citizens.
I never said Palestinians don’t want peace with Israel. I said they don’t want peace with Israel at the expense of their nation. There will only be peace when there are two states: Palestine and Israel.

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He actuallly thinks Hamas cares about the Palestinians and acts in their best interest.
They do care. They fight for Palestine. Without them and other fighters, there would be no Palestine.

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Plus, I get the feeling he thinks any sort of terror against Israel is cool. Kind of terror chic. So very trendy. What a moron.
Military targets are the only legitimate targets. Violence against civilians, with very few exceptions, is never tolerable. This is one of the reasons why I advocate more advanced weapon procurements for the resistance groups. They need to be able to hit legitimate targets inside Israel with accuracy, which is why I have called out Palestinian fighters who fire outdated rockets that have no guidance systems into Israel.
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I think they would take issue with "Jew Only" roads..
They won't have much of a choice. They'll to pick between pride and survival.

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Unfortunately not enough weapons were on their side.
Read Guns, Germs & Steel. It's not just the guns. It's all the geographic advantages which eventually led up to the guns and the steel.

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Eventually they will win the fight. The Jewish population within Israel will dwindle as the Arab population increases. There are only so many Jews in the world. All the Palestinians have to do is hold out and keep having lots of sex. Keep Palestine today, take Israel tommorow!
It's not just the Israeli population living within Israel that they'll have to contend with. I would've thought sixty years of unconditional support by the U.S. and other countries would ring a bell in your mind.
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How Klingon.
Trueblue doesn't have a fucking clue about the region. LOL, I see that he actually thought Hamas and Hezbollah were on the same side. LMAO. He sees the problem as only Muslim/Arab versus Jew. He doesn't understand all the infighting between the different Arab and Muslim groups, Sunni, Shia, Druze and Christian which go way beyond what's happening in Iraq. He probably doesn't even know about the way Palestinians in Lebanon are treated. And he seems to think most Palestinians don't want peace with Israel which isn't true, most of them do. They're sick of the fighting as are most Israeli citizens. He actuallly thinks Hamas cares about the Palestinians and acts in their best interest. Plus, I get the feeling he thinks any sort of terror against Israel is cool. Kind of terror chic. So very trendy. What a moron.
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Palestine will be around long after im dead.
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Depends on how old you are.
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