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Old 06-23-2008, 08:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm not that bad, I did glance at Wikipedia, but I wondered if there was anything else playing out in the background, some sort of extenuating circumstance that got him off & culminated in this... mass psychosis
I read some place that he was playing on peoples fears from some riots that took place earlier. Cant remember if they were racial riots or not.
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Gotta take my hat off to the German government. They've come a long way since the 1940's. When they see neo-nazis on the street the police show up in full riot gear and those nazi fucks get the beat-down of their lives if they so much as sneer when told to clear off.
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Gotta take my hat off to the German government. They've come a long way since the 1940's. When they see neo-nazis on the street the police show up in full riot gear and those nazi fucks get the beat-down of their lives if they so much as sneer when told to clear off.
Not very democratic for a democracy, but given their history its understandable.

But whats not understandable is the German goverment building submarines capable of nuclear launches for the Israelis. Now they will also be responsible for an Iranian/Palestinian Holocaust. When will the Germans ever learn!
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Gotta take my hat off to the German government. They've come a long way since the 1940's. When they see neo-nazis on the street the police show up in full riot gear and those nazi fucks get the beat-down of their lives if they so much as sneer when told to clear off.
One could twist that, you know

But yeah, considering the shite we've seen across boards viz-a-viz Jewish people, it's scary how much antisemitism is out there, just beneath the surface (and sometimes not so beneath the surface). They really, really get pissed off when they hear that talk, no messing around with history there, oh no.

Let's hope ambivalence towards Muslims has to do with the massive influx of immigration coming from the ME & Africa along with former Eastern Bloc countries - just like your influx of illegals from Latin America. Great fun, esp with Europe's social net.
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Not very democratic for a democracy, but given their history its understandable.
In your eyes, maybe not. But not all countries/culture agree with your definition of 'freedom of speech'. I've already said it before, but it bears repeating: it's a privilege we enjoy, and as such, it comes with a responsibility.
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In your eyes, maybe not. But not all countries/culture agree with your definition of 'freedom of speech'. I've already said it before, but it bears repeating: it's a privilege we enjoy, and as such, it comes with a responsibility.
True enough on free speech, but in a true democracy all people regardless of their political beliefs need to be allowed to compete for power in the power structure. Otherwise its not really a democracy, at least for the people who are denied access to the power structure.


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In the face of Iran's race to obtain nuclear power, Israel signed a contract with Germany last month to buy two Dolphin-class submarines that will, according to foreign reports, provide superior second-strike nuclear capabilities, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

The submarines will be assembled in Germany and provided with a propulsion system allowing them to remain underwater for far longer than the submarines currently in the Israel Navy's fleet.(contd)

Exclusive: Israel buys 2 German subs | Jerusalem Post
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Not very democratic for a democracy, but given their history its understandable.

But whats not understandable is the German goverment building submarines capable of nuclear launches for the Israelis. Now they will also be responsible for an Iranian/Palestinian Holocaust. When will the Germans ever learn!
Launch tubes can also serve for conventional missiles as well, so it's not strictly a stealthy nation killer. However, how can we expect better when the U.S. is perp number one for fanning Isreli/Palestinian flames.

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One could twist that, you know

But yeah, considering the shite we've seen across boards viz-a-viz Jewish people, it's scary how much antisemitism is out there, just beneath the surface (and sometimes not so beneath the surface). They really, really get pissed off when they hear that talk, no messing around with history there, oh no.

Let's hope ambivalence towards Muslims has to do with the massive influx of immigration coming from the ME & Africa along with former Eastern Bloc countries - just like your influx of illegals from Latin America. Great fun, esp with Europe's social net.
This is one area where the U.S. is decades ahead of most European countries, in that we advanced civil rights and the address of racial injustice as a result of the variety of demographics. France's government still ghettoizes their Pakistani and Morrocan immigrants, and- of course, leave them poverty and unemployment.
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Not very democratic for a democracy, but given their history its understandable.

But whats not understandable is the German goverment building submarines capable of nuclear launches for the Israelis. Now they will also be responsible for an Iranian/Palestinian Holocaust. When will the Germans ever learn!
The Germans have learned about the business end of things, fine capitalists that they are. It was Germans and Brazilians that souped up the scuds for Saddam, and provided the early plumbing and hardware for the missles to carry chemical and biological warheads. Thankfully, Scott Ritter and crew destroyed all that shit, but somewhere I bet, are the plans for all that stuff. Yet another shining example of Rumsfeld's commitment to world peace...

edit- my source for that is Ritter's book "Waging Peace"

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True enough on free speech, but in a true democracy all people regardless of their political beliefs need to be allowed to compete for power in the power structure. Otherwise its not really a democracy, at least for the people who are denied access to the power structure.


In the face of Iran's race to obtain nuclear power, Israel signed a contract with Germany last month to buy two Dolphin-class submarines that will, according to foreign reports, provide superior second-strike nuclear capabilities, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

The submarines will be assembled in Germany and provided with a propulsion system allowing them to remain underwater for far longer than the submarines currently in the Israel Navy's fleet.(contd)

Exclusive: Israel buys 2 German subs | Jerusalem Post
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The Germans have learned about the business end of things, fine capitalists that they are. It was Germans and Brazilians that souped up the scuds for Saddam, and provided the early plumbing and hardware for the missles to carry chemical and biological warheads. Thankfully, Scott Ritter and crew destroyed all that shit, but somewhere I bet, are the plans for all that stuff. Yet another shining example of Rumsfeld's commitment to world peace...

edit- my source for that is Ritter's book "Waging Peace"
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Launch tubes can also serve for conventional missiles as well, so it's not strictly a stealthy nation killer. However, how can we expect better when the U.S. is perp number one for fanning Isreli/Palestinian flames.
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....Decades ahead? Really?
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France's government still ghettoizes their Pakistani and Morrocan immigrants, and- of course, leave them poverty and unemployment.
...Now that may not be the French gov't's fault, and -- how do I say this? -- the US has some impressive ghettos too, J. Some of it's inevitable with influx as it is, but you haven't experienced police choppers practically sitting on your apartment building's roof often enough to become commonplace (nor have I, but my classmates who'd rented a place in Compton did)

Julia wrote that she lived in France, she'd have some observations to share
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Not very democratic for a democracy, but given their history its understandable.

But whats not understandable is the German goverment building submarines capable of nuclear launches for the Israelis. Now they will also be responsible for an Iranian/Palestinian Holocaust. When will the Germans ever learn!
It's really not hard to understand at all. The US, the UK, and Germany are the three biggest Zionist strongholds outside of the undeclared borders of Israel.

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